From: L' Ermit (lhermit@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Feb 09 2002 - 18:33:37 MST
Stop it with this durned evil-lution talk.
I didn't come from no monkey-luvin!!
Walter
...
"To err is human. To really screw things up requires a bare-naked
command line and a wildcard operator."
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Speaking of evil and bare-naked things... here the bare naked asses of the
religious luddites, including our wounderful unelected President, waving in
the air, as they bury their collective heads in the sand to prey (upon the
future). What a wonderful thing a Religious Republic is to be sure.
[Borrowing Walter's wonderful tag-line] "To err is human. To really screw
things up requires a religious agenda, a President who makes retarded
monkeys appear intelligent, and a house and senate that prove that the US
has exactly the kind of government it deserves."
Hermit <selling US drug company shares before this becomes the next
high-tech market to tank.>
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http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,50297,00.html
By Declan McCullagh (declan@wired.com)
2:00 a.m. Feb. 9, 2002 PST
WASHINGTON -- It's been seven months since the House of
Representatives voted to ban cloning, and the Senate is deciding whether to
follow suit [Hermit: They will ban cloning, the only question whether it is
reproductive cloning only or all cloning. Right now [Hermit: and "Religious
Right now" would go amiss) it seems that they are going to ban all cloning].
This week, the Senate Judiciary committee met to decide whether to ban human
embryo cloning completely, or to prohibit only the reproductive cloning of
human beings while still allowing "therapeutic" cloning for experimental
research. [...]
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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:06:53 -0500
From: Saul Kent <SaulKent@compuserve.com>
Subject: Don't Let The Government Ban Therapeutic Cloning!
Therapeutic cloning research could lead to cures for heart disease, stroke,
cancer, Alzheimer's disease and other lethal conditions. It could also lead
to therapies to reverse the infirmities and ravages of aging. [Hermit: Worth
remembering that the Christian's gods said there will always be sickness -
so to cure sickness is to go against their gods... ]
The U.S. Senate is now debating The Human Cloning Prohibition Act S.790),
which has already passed the House. This bill could put scientists who
conduct therapeutic cloning research in prison for 10 years.
The Life Extension Foundation urges you to contact U.S. Senators to urge
them to vote against this bill. Information about how to do so can be found
on The Foundation's web site (www.lef.org). Also on the site is an
interview with Mike West, Ph.D., the President and CEO of Advanced Cell
Technology, and an article entitled "Don't Let The U.S. Government Ban
Therapeutic Cloning".
Please send this message to everyone you know who is interested in staying
alive and healthy.
Saul Kent, Founder and Director
Life Extension Foundation
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Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 21:58:31 -0600
Subject: Re: FC: Responses to Center for Genetics and Society and ban on
cloning
From: Virginia Postrel <virginia@dynamist.com>
To: <declan@well.com>
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After much thought I've come to the following conclusion: if we are simply
talking about the use of stem-cells/etc to learn how to clone replacement
organs, I am very comfortable with this line of research. Furthermore, no
one (save the Amish, Christian Scientists, and the Luddites), I believe,
would be against that technology.
Judging from the mail you've posted, a number of your readers seem to be
unaware that the House has overwhelmingly passed (in last year's session)
and the White House has endorsed legislation that would make doing
this--transferring a nucleus to an enucleated egg **for the purpose of
cloning tissues or for basic cell research**, not only for reproductive
purposes--a federal crime, punishable by up to 10 years in prison. This
would be a permanent ban, not a moratorium, and it is this sort of
legislation that the Center for Genetics and Society is supporting.
I wrote about this subject in The Wall Street Journal,
http://www.dynamist.com/opeds/cloning.html.
-- Virginia Postrel (vpostrel@dynamist.com) Author, The Future and Its Enemies "Economic Scene" columnist, The New York Times Contributing editor and "Spaces" columnist, D Magazine http://www.dynamist.com | http://vpostrel.com (The Scene) -- Read about my book-in-progress at http://www.dynamist.com/lookandfeel.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- <Formatting tidied by Hermit> _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
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