From: Steele, Kirk A (SteeleKA@nafm.misawa.af.mil)
Date: Sat Mar 02 2002 - 16:40:58 MST
Bill,
In psychology we refer to what ATNRX is doing as 'actor-observer
bias' or the 'false attributional error'. He won't see his way out of this
tendency probably for another ten years or so, assuming he progresses down
the developmental path he is on at a pace commensurate with his displayed
concomitant developmental stages. I'm not saying that there is anything
untowardly wrong or dysfunctional with him, quite the contrary. He is quite
normal. Just realise, we were all there once. Some a few years earlier than
others, and a couple, a few years later. Point is, he'll see his way clear
after a while. Right now, the whole world is a very unfair place, AND MOST
BE PROTESTED AGAINST!!! [Said with fist held high, clutching in other fist a
7-11 big gulp with blink-182 logo in the ad of the week logo space, where a
7-11 pog used to be]
kirk
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Roh [mailto:billroh@churchofvirus.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 7:14 AM
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re: virus: The world keeps on spinning...
Sorry Athe - but you are wroing about your facts. You CAN be fired for your
choice of sexual partners, but you cannot be fired for your political views.
I
don't know why you got such a basic and well understood aspect of your basic
protections confused, but I advise you to consider that perhaps it is your
distaste for the average person that you are projecting here. That and
hoping
that the people you see as discriminated against will be your cadres.
I think you give way too much credit to the anarchists. People don't hate
anarchists. They aren't discriminated against particularly. They are ignored
as
insignificant cause, well, they are. If you are not a productive part of the
social contract, and refuse to participate, and refuse to help, then you
qualify
as a waste of time, and a burden.
As for your discrimination list, the only group I see there that has a real
bone
is the black man or woman. There is no doubt that, for many reasons, they
face
serious discrimination issues. I'm surprised you did not put atheists on
your
list. We seem quite discriminated against. We can't run for office - an
anarchist can. We can't pledge our flag, testify in most courts, spend US
currency etc... all cause we refuse to recognize a god. Oh sure, we can lie
and
participate - but our participation in these things requires dishonesty -
and
that does not sit well with me.
Bill Roh
athe nonrex wrote:
> [athenonrex]
> firstly, the top five most discriminated aginst groups,
> as of 2001 for the usa are :
> 1)anarchists
> 2)african americans (still, after centuries of progress,
> people continue to oppress them...)
> 3)communists/ socialists
> 4)muslims/american arabians
> 5)pagans/wiccans/satanists...
>
> anarchists are especially discriminated aginst right now,
> as are the mulims (due to sept. 11, everyone thinks that
> either all the anarchists or all the muslims are going to
> take up arms aginst the US.)
>
> the reason that anarchists are so easily discriminated
> aginst is because the "constitution of the USA" protects
> the people from being discriminated aginst for race, sex,
> religion, finacial status, physical disabilities, and sexual
> preference, but not for political views. if i have a job, lets say
> at a school as a teacher, and they find out that i'm a satanist,
> they cannot fire me based off of that. if they find out that i'm a fag,
> they cannot fire me based on that. however, they can fire me if they
> were to find out that i am an anarchist without experiancing any legal
> repercussions.
>
> [ben]
> Those same statistics would suggest that the most 'discriminated against'
> minority are probably untalented uneducated unmotivated individuals who
> have
> put themselves in a position where they have nothing to offer anyone other
> than trite, self-righteous but utterly unworkable cliches. How sad for
them.
>
> [athenonrex]
> how so? because a type of people are disliked by a larger group of
people,
> does that make them untalented uneducated unmotivated individuals ?
> honestly, i want to see the logic that you base this prejudice on.
>
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