Re: virus: US Apparently going to war? DUH?

From: Dr Sebby (drsebby@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Mar 11 2002 - 02:08:24 MST


...kirk, didnt your mother ever teach you to never, ever count your
keystrokes? it just isnt civilized, i tell ya!

Sebby. ;)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Steele, Kirk A" <SteeleKA@nafm.misawa.af.mil>
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
To: "'virus@lucifer.com'" <virus@lucifer.com>
Subject: virus: US Apparently going to war? DUH?
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 16:50:49 +0900

"Game on"
By the way, such disingenuous affectations of "the sky is falling, the sky
is falling" is hardly an effective manner of presenting ones self as being a
member of the socially aware clan. Chicken Little-isms don't carry much
weight around these parts. I assume that since you did conduct a
interstitial search of the informational detritus located proximally about
the confines of your nest that you are at least, in theory, aware of the
manner in which information searches on the web are conducted. In under 100
keystrokes I was able to locate the following links, along with an
un-forwarded plethora of others. Before you go whinning at the top of your
beak "the conspiracy of censorship is falling, the conspiracy of censorship
is falling", at least show a modicum of effort, get out of your nest, do
some free range poking in the www.dirt <http://www.dirt> (btw, that AINT a
web site, so DONT CLICK ON IT!!!) for some new worms, then and ONLY then
come cackling back to the roost as fast as your chicken little feet can
carry you!!!
"Side out"

"Service.........Game point"
And, it is being reported on in America. the following sites have the
information. It is just that there has been no great awareness on the part
of the mass (read: catering to the brainless masses of moo-cows sucking on
the dribbling teat of ameriKan television "journalism") media.

http://www.newyorker.com/press/content/
<http://www.newyorker.com/press/content/>
The New Yorker, for all you non-yanks (hail and praise to you all) is a
"society rag" about life in the Big Apple (NY city). So when the editorial
staff of said rag feel it incumbent upon to report on something that is so
completely outside of their forum, one must necessarily question their
reasons for doing so. In this case, they realize that the stentorian and
interminable drone of the drums of war (see CNN for "America-Under Siege"
day 16,482) on ameriKan TV will not soon give up the righteous glory of the
all hallowed commercial appeal of bringing the blasting to bitsy bits of the
beleaguered bad guys on one chunk of dirt, to that of a previously
unfinished piece of business on a similarly unstrategic chunk of dirt.

Oh, I hear the passionate rumblings of rebuttal forming now to forward the
all hallowed prerogative of "american ideals" and human rights, and
suppression of terrorism, ...blah blah blah blah..............Get over
yourselves.

Hussein is an intolerable tyrant. He kills his own people for his own
agenda. he wants weapons of mass destruction so he can assert his private
agenda as the "righteous agenda" of the Iraqi state. Fuck Him! Nuke Him! By
what ever means necessary, take that SOB out of the picture. The world is
toooooo small a place for Machiavellian overtures.

But let's not forget that we elect ideological groups in ameriKa that do
exactly the same thing all in the name of their "righteous national agenda".
Ever hear of the word "hegemony"?

And the New Yorker Magazine is aware that their subscribing readership is
comprised of a lot of people with a lot of money and a lot of societal
clout. So what is in the mix? Well, along with the next piece of "GenSer"
information, we can deduce that the efforts in Afghanistan are serving a
secondary role. Along with the primary function of actually kicking some
badguy butt, Unkle Sam gets the rest of the world looking one way while
ameriKa slips a couple of thousand troops into Kuwait from the other
direction.
http://tampatrib.com/nationworldnews/MGA8ZZJ09VC.html
<http://tampatrib.com/nationworldnews/MGA8ZZJ09VC.html>
Smoke and Mirrors!!! That's how unKle Sam get the job done. Three card
monty, shell game, and the fun house!!!

Also, if you want to know of what other indicators to be on the watch for,
consider monitoring the movements of the following units listing in this
article.
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/jmb/jmb011211_1_n.shtml
<http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/jmb/jmb011211_1_n.shtml>
http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/terrorism/military/afghan/1214army.html
<http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/terrorism/military/afghan/1214army.html>
http://www.spiescafe.com/afi/afi011216a.htm
<http://www.spiescafe.com/afi/afi011216a.htm> (a rather tasty info NGO, if
I ever saw one.)

Now, if you'll pardon my withdrawal from this conversation, I have to return
to my class in media communications. I was teaching remedial researching for
the informationally imnpaired. No, wait a minute, that was in here. hm......

Kirkafreakingsaurus Gaaaawddamnedwrecks

blah blah blah yackity schmackity
rant rant rant rant rant

"side out, point, game"

some where...overtheline

-----Original Message-----
From: Zphobic [mailto:zphobic@softhome.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 7:59 PM
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: virus: US Apparently Going To War

I can't find any mention of this on CNN or npr.org. A friend looked on
MSNBC, Washington Post, and ABC News, and didn't see it. US censorship?

    - Zphobic

http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,665083,00.html
<http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,665083,00.html>

Bush wants 25,000 UK Iraq force

Britain considers joint invasion plan

Kamal Ahmed, Jason Burke and Peter Beaumont
Sunday March 10, 2002

America has asked Britain to draw up plans for 25,000 of this country's
troops to join a US task force to overthrow Saddam Hussein.

In a move which reveals advanced US plans for the next phase of its war on
terror, Government departments are considering the plans ahead of
Vice-President Dick Cheney's meeting with the Prime Minister tomorrow.

Cheney will come to London armed with fresh evidence against the Iraqi
dictator, and will tell Tony Blair that United Nations inspections of Iraq's
nuclear, chemical and biological weapons may not be enough to head off a new
war in the Gulf.

The request for such a large number of British troops shows the high stakes
America is now playing for. It will alarm Cabinet doves, thought to include
Clare Short, the International Development Secretary, and Robin Cook, the
former Foreign Secretary and now Leader of the Commons.

The Government is already facing a split on the issue of military action
against Iraq. One Minister described those who had questioned Blair's policy
of fully backing a US military campaign as 'appeasers'.

'At some point people have to realise that action has to be taken,' he said.

The request for such a large number of troops is unprecedented in peacetime.
It is one of three major options now being considered by the Government
which has always insisted publicly that no final decisions have been made on
military action against Saddam.

British troops would be part of a 250,000-strong ground force to invade Iraq
in an operation similar to Desert Storm in 1991.

The second option is one where smaller special forces units would support
opposition forces within Iraq, like the tactic used in Afghanistan, where
the Northern Alliance was backed with air strikes and logistical support in
its battle to overthrow the Taliban.

The third option - thought to be preferred by the Foreign Office - is one of
'aggressive containment'. Under this plan, air strikes against Iraq would be
intensified if Saddam did not agree to a comprehensive inspections agree
ment.

Cheney arrives in London ahead of a 10-day 'hearts and minds' tour of the
Middle East which is seen as vital in shoring up the alliance against Iraq.
After London he will visit Egypt, Israel, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman
and Turkey.

America is confident that with enough evidence against Saddam, the White
House can persuade other Arab states to support military action.

'I think they all have legitimate concerns about the regime in Iraq, and
they're aware that Saddam continues to represent a threat to the security
and stability of the region,' said one White House official. 'I expect
they'll all want to talk about it.'

America has already begun a discreet military build-up in preparation for a
ground war in Iraq. US special forces are training Iraqi militia to be ready
for a strike against Saddam in the coming months.

Teams of instructors drawn from American elite regiments have been arriving
in Kurdish-held areas in the north of Iraq in recent weeks, targeting the
semi-autonomous areas run by the Kurdish Democratic Party.

The instructors are improving local fighters' tactical and weapons skills
and teaching them how to exploit chaos caused by American air strikes. They
are also drawing up lists of potential targets, a vital prerequisite to any
ground offensive.

Defence sources say a battalion of 24 Longbow Apache attack helicopters also
recently arrived in Kuwait. The helicopters, capable of operating up to 250
kilometres behind enemy lines, could be used to attack air defence sites and
Iraqi armour in the opening air phase of any war.

In a separate development sources say more than 5,000 US fighting vehicles,
mothballed in Kuwait since the end of the Gulf War, have quietly been
overhauled.

DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".

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