From: Jonathan Davis (jonathan.davis@lineone.net)
Date: Fri Sep 19 2003 - 03:37:39 MDT
Howdy Hermit,
It is pity the useful bits at the bottom of your post are blighted by the
now habitual Deeslike snipe at the object of your obsession. I note you
have looked up the Sceptics dictionary article I referred you to on 3rd
September. As I said at the time, it is a superb resource. In defence of
NLP, the Sceptics dictionary misplaces its emphasis and is consequently
erroneous.
NLP is simply "an attitude, backed by a methodology, which leaves a trail of
techniques". The attitude is simply "Use what works". The Sceptics
dictionary article correctly attacks some of the adopted methodologies, but
these are not NLP. For a good look at the subject I recommend "Dr. Sulo's
Crash Course in Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP)" [
http://www.covertcommunications.com/nlp/crashcourse.html ].
Kind regards
Jonathan
P.S. Please don't take this as a personal attack. I mean I am not posting
doctored pictures of you doing a Nazi salute or anything :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of
Hermit
Sent: 19 September 2003 06:35
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: virus: Re:communication and body language.
In the current era, most senior people in the US (corporate as well as
political) have been so drilled by image consultants that their body
language is designed to project exactly what they wish. Like this wonderful
picture. What message do you think dubya intends to deliver here?
http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/attachments/DerFuhrerDubya-mdf359868.jpg
Der neue Fuhrer (Larry Downing/Reuters)
Or does anyone remember the footage caught off air by BBC TV of Dubya
clowning around, making faces, and pumping his fist in the air as he shouted
'Feels good!' just before his address to this nation informing us that war
would begin in Iraq. Footage shown widely in Europe, but not in tthe US.
News anchors that night analyzed how he was so 'somber,' 'serious,' and 'had
his game face on.' Source BuzzFlash
(http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/03/24_groomv.html). Which "body
language" should we believe?
I suggest that this means that "body language", if it exists, is largely
unuseful - except possibly at a detail level - or when caught unawares. So
unless you are interested in how Politicians and others think they should
project themselves (according to the ever changing current interpretation of
"body-language") don't pay too much attention. Especially given that "body
language" is a field which, with a few exceptions well documented on the
excellent "non-verbal dictionary (members.aol.com/nonverbal2/entries.htm)"
site (KirkSteele, "Re: virus: communication and body language.", Reply #2,
2003-09-17
(http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=54;action=display;threadid=292
80) thank you Kirkasaurus), should be viewed with extreme skepticism. A
number of issues on this score are raised in the Skeptical Dictionary
article (http://skepdic.com/neurolin.html) referenced on this site about "No
Longer Plausible" but "NevertheLessPopular" NLP
(http://reviewing.co.uk/reviews/nlp.h!
tm).
Hermit
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