From: metahuman (hidden@lucifer.com)
Date: Fri Oct 24 2003 - 02:06:00 MDT
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[02:23pm] <Demon> hermit
[02:23pm] <Demon> The editor of positive atheism has some good and bad things to say about the CoV.
[02:23pm] <Demon> He's going to list the CoV in the main index of Positive Atheism.
[02:23pm] <Hermit> Why?
[02:23pm] <KalGone> why?
[02:24pm] <Hermit> Snap
[02:24pm] <Demon> i'll put it into a text
[02:24pm] <Hermit> Give us the gist
[02:24pm] <KalGone> ATHEISM:(vl) The doctrine that there is no God. Atheists believe that there is insufficient evidence for God and/or that the concept of God is incoherent so its existence is logically impossible.
[02:24pm] <Hermit> Shit
[02:24pm] <Hermit> I agree with him
[02:25pm] <KalGone> atheists believe
[02:25pm] <Hermit> It is completely wrong
[02:25pm] <KalGone> forward his response on to the list, demon
[02:25pm] * Hermit notices that he has repeatedly used and expanded on the standard explanation.
[02:25pm] <KalGone> yes you have
[02:25pm] <Hermit> Add my comments here if you like.
[02:26pm] <Demon> www.sonicexpansion.net/editorcomments.htm
[02:26pm] <KalGone> wanna come up with something and submit it to the list for vote to update the lexicon?
[02:26pm] <Hermit> Don't need to.
[02:26pm] <KalGone> is there something in the wiki that works?
[02:26pm] <Hermit> Just need to find one of my posts "A - Without Theism - Belief in gods" will do as a search string.
[02:27pm] <Hermit> I'll look
[02:28pm] <Demon> did you guys get that link?
[02:28pm] <KalGone> yeah I'm reading it
[02:28pm] <KalGone> he likes to write ;-}
[02:28pm] <KalGone> and he seems to be good at clearly stating his arguments
[02:28pm] <Demon> he's been doing it for 8-12 years
[02:28pm] <KalGone> and as far as I can tell so far, I agree with him
[02:28pm] <Demon> so do i
[02:29pm] <Demon> i feel like sending an e-mail back that says: "We're sooooo sorry!!!!! Please forgive us!!!!! The web site is a bit outdated and the members of the CoV agree with you!"
[02:29pm] <KalGone> our phoenetic representation in the lexicon should emphasize the 'a-' too I think
[02:30pm] <KalGone> nah, we can do better than that, demon ;-}
[02:30pm] <Demon> But I also just awakened so I'm hungry.
[02:30pm] <KalGone> The awkwardness revealed when it is shown that a baby is rightly called an atheist pales in comparison to the awkwardness revealed when one compares this "a"-word with the other "a"-words in English.
[02:30pm] <KalGone> lol
[02:30pm] <KalGone> excellent point, one I had never considered before
[02:30pm] <KalGone> "all humans start out as atheists"
[02:30pm] <KalGone> ;-}
[02:31pm] <Demon> hehe
[02:31pm] <Demon> interesting
[02:31pm] <Demon> I never thought of that either.
[02:31pm] <Demon> So are you guys going to e-mail him back?
[02:31pm] <Demon> Cliff Walker editor@PositiveAtheism.org
[02:32pm] <KalGone> well lets get the lexicon changed and then email him, or post his comments to the list and cc: him
[02:32pm] <Hermit> http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=32;action=display;threadid=28161;start=0 Reply 6
[02:35pm] <KalGone> maybe it's time for a list-based lexicon going over
[02:39pm] <Hermit> Probably. But it can hold off
[02:40pm] <KalGone> or switching the link to point to the wiki
[02:40pm] <KalGone> I'm sure some of the definitions are at odds
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[02:52pm] <KalGone> Welcome to the ChurchOfVirus wiki experiment to evolve the VirusDoctrine.
[02:52pm] <KalGone> interesting way to state it
[02:59pm] <Hermit> http://virus.lucifer.com/wiki/VirusLexicon
[02:59pm] <Hermit> Just done with Atheism
[02:59pm] <Hermit> 'See, we are evolving
[03:01pm] <KalGone> lol
[03:01pm] <KalGone> yup
[03:01pm] <KalGone> ;-}
[03:02pm] <KalGone> If you are a theist, this may help you understand our position. We Virions are atheists for the same reasons you are an atheist with respect to the other thousands of gods and goddesses.
[03:02pm] <KalGone> from http://virus.lucifer.com/wiki/OnAtheism
[03:03pm] <Hermit> And added to agnosticism too.
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[03:03pm] <Demon> Should I tell Cliff about those?
[03:03pm] <KalGone> sure
[03:04pm] <KalGone> in the interest of consistency however, I would almost like the two lexicons to be reconciled and then one eliminated (not the wikiwikione)
[03:05pm] <Hermit> Sure Demon
[03:05pm] <Hermit> Explain that we are a work in Progress, and thank him for bringing it to our attention.
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