Re: virus: Re:Flux is lazy

From: Erik Aronesty (erik@zoneedit.com)
Date: Thu Feb 26 2004 - 15:55:29 MST

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    What if you are willing to die for your country...and you are a “free-thinking” individual?

    Is there any criteria whereby one could determine who is and who is not free thinking among the “I would die for my country” set of people?

    Is it anything like the Voight-Kampff Test?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jei <jei@cc.hut.fi>
    Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 00:06:21
    To:virus@lucifer.com
    Subject: Re: virus: Re:Flux is lazy

    On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Erik Aronesty wrote:

    > Anything wrong with being willing to die for a country?

    No more so than willingness to die for any other equally
    stupid cause or reason, from an individual's point of view.

    From a government's point of view, "standard majority
    tv-propaganda set" -believing goons are a vital necessity.

    Some people simply lack individuality and believe what
    they're told, do what others do, and do as they are told.
    They are incapable of forming their own original thoughts,
    hence they adopt majority opinions, repeat them and just
    go with the drove. It takes great energy, courage and
    character to go against the majority. (The US government is,
    however, showing great individuality in acting in it's
    representative's own personal self interest (war profiteering).)

    From an individual's point of view, however, accepting the
    beliefs of another as superior to your own, and obeying and
    acting on them against your best interest (such as dying
    because of them) means you either lack individuality or are
    not capable of it, or are just damn stupid to have been fooled
    into a situation where you have to act against your own best
    interest because some group's interest so demands (e.g. dying
    for your country).

    Some examples:

    http://www.journalism.co.uk/news/story823.shtml

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