Re: virus: Re:Some of Juuko Isohaari's favorite writers and posts

From: Jei (jei@cc.hut.fi)
Date: Fri May 07 2004 - 11:48:50 MDT

  • Next message: Jonathan Davis: "RE: virus: Re:Some of Juuko Isohaari's favorite writers and posts"

    On Fri, 7 May 2004, rhinoceros wrote:

    >
    > [Jei]
    > "Maybe I think we would be better off if America hadn't bombed the shit
    > out of Germany and Europe? Certainly the economy would have been doing
    > much better, now that I think about it. Millions of people would still
    > be alive and we wouldn't have had to pay for all the shit Russians
    > wanted. Yeah, WWII was most likely a disfavor that America did to
    > Europe, from my personal economical point of view."
    >
    > [Jonathan Davis]
    > Jake, Rhino - are you sure you want to keep accusing me of delusion?

    Well, that depends on your standards and definitions of course. If being
    anti-racist when it comes to Israeli policies on arabs means you're also
    an anti-semite, then so be it. I personally don't think so however.
    Anti-semitism is also mistakenly used to refer to people who object to
    jews only. Arabs are also semites, and as recent developments indicate,
    americans are quite racist and rabid anti-semites themselves. Jews are
    mostly of the same race as arabs, though they are often depicted as being
    white american. - One reason why the ethnic race-targetting bioweapons and
    bombs won't work to destroy the "arab dogs" as one jewish rabbi once
    complained to me. Also a lot of them have gone and gotten married to other
    races during the diaspora.

    I personally think that Sharon has doing quite nicely recently getting
    the illegal settlements removed (or trying to), despite the targetted
    assassinations and bulldozings and apache-strikes and harrassing and
    threatening Arafat, etc.

    Now, I'm not going to lick their ass any more than that. I still condemn
    the Vanunu imprisonment, the 200+ nukes, the bioweapons and chemical
    weapons that Israel has, and demand that they sign the same treaties to
    stop nuclear proliferation and become subject to snap-inspections as
    Iran and North Korea are being demanded.

    Why is it that I haven't seen a single American demand this?

    Are you Jake, Jonathan and Rhino, by any chance anti-semites who
    hate arabs and think they're dogs that should be incinerated, or
    perhaps I am still being delusional? We will see if you can give
    us a fair judgement of their situation and demand that Israel give
    up it's nukes. They have plenty of weapons to handle any threats
    without them. If not, we will have to count you in with the rest
    of the anti-semitist americans hunting and thirsting for arab blood.

    > [rhinoceros]
    > So far, I have neglected to do so in so many words Jonathan. Dunno about Jake ;)
    >
    > What Jei said was true, although I would not let the European leaders
    > off the hook so easily. The most striking example was the wanton
    > massacre in the German city of Dresden, just to pick one of the less
    > controversial cases. Have you read Kurt Vonnegut's
    > "Slaughterhouse-Five"?

    Yeah, my country was on the side of the nazis. Either join, or be
    conquered. Not much of a choise, I'm told. And we were of course
    of the mighty nordic Aryan race variety (not really, but in name),
    with only a few jews here and there, so it wasn't that much of a
    political problem as elsewhere. Russia did bleed the local economy
    poor for decades after the war to repay their war costs and whatnot.
    - All part of the peace agreement.

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