| 2003-04-15 20:00:07
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| 20:00:07 | Sat | * Sat eats some beans |
| 20:00:16 | Lucifer | Today's topic is Apathy and Passion |
| 20:00:33 | rhino | oh, it is time already |
| 20:00:38 | Lucifer | How can we control our motivations? |
| 20:00:53 | Lucifer | What strategies are best to achieve what we want? |
| 20:00:57 | Sat | prayer, Lucifer, and flagellation. |
| 20:01:08 | Lucifer | indeed |
| 20:01:11 | JerryLee | JerryLee (NoOne@[death to spam].CPE-65-26-67-45.kc.rr.com) has quit IRC [Quit: Religion should be taught only as part of our cultural history, for its impact there is undeniable, but it should be presented only as a quaint way of disguising ignorance, propagating wishful thinking, and exercising power over the ignorant and weak] |
| 20:01:32 | Sat | I think it is important to start small with self change. |
| 20:01:50 | Sat | One must pick easy goals as training wheels. |
| 20:01:55 | Lucifer | That might be the best place to start |
| 20:02:10 | Lucifer | After all, if you can't change yourself, how can you expect to change anything else? |
| 20:02:22 | Lucifer | (I'm afraid that sounds too much like a newage aphorism) |
| 20:02:31 | Sat | yes and if you can't change little things about yourself your doomed |
| 20:02:44 | Lucifer | But seriously, that is exactly what this discussion is about, How to change yourself |
| 20:03:10 | rhino | and why? |
| 20:03:14 | Lucifer | Say I have great aspirations, but I can't seem to get motivated to start |
| 20:03:23 | Sat | starting small has been my praxis. |
| 20:03:31 | Lucifer | I've heard that each journey starts with a single step, but that isn't helping |
| 20:03:50 | Sat | now I am onto medium challenges. ie crushing adictions |
| 20:03:53 | Lucifer | rhino, good addition |
| 20:04:39 | rhino | so, what is our problem here... |
| 20:04:41 | Lucifer | Has anyone read the Greg Egan stories where the characters can choose their motivation as easily as turning a dial? |
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| 20:05:07 | santyr_ | con dropped |
| 20:05:21 | rhino | can we clarify the difference between aspirations and motivations? |
| 20:05:41 | santyr_ | aspirations are conscious? |
| 20:05:55 | santyr_ | motivation can be unconscious? |
| 20:06:01 | Lucifer | Aspirations are high level goals |
| 20:06:17 | rhino | is that that i want to do something but i can't get myself to work on it? |
