2003-07-01 20:00:06
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20:00:06 | Lucifer | OK, time to begin? |
20:00:10 | Sat-an | RE: topic - It's all Mermaid's fault. She always disagrees |
20:00:20 | Sat-an | ;) |
20:00:27 | Lucifer | Tonight's topic is Why can't rational people agree on anything? |
20:00:48 | Lucifer | I'm exaggerating, of course, but sometimes it seems like it |
20:01:25 | Sat-an | well some of it is not disagreement so much as misunderstanding. For Example your dragon collection. |
20:01:58 | Lucifer | My dragon collection? |
20:02:08 | Sat-an | on the other hand one can be perfectly rational from the basis of one's assumptions. |
20:02:25 | Sat-an | Your example of dragons not existing in the objective universe |
20:02:30 | Mermaid | first we have to ask if rationality implies that everyone will ultimately come to the same conclusion |
20:02:40 | Lucifer | Well one of the problems is we are all starting from different assumptions |
20:02:48 | Mermaid | and secondly if coming to the same conclusion will translate as the same action... |
20:02:54 | Sat-an | * Sat-an gives Lucifer a shiny trinket |
20:02:56 | Sat-an | right! |
20:03:39 | Lucifer | We can't assume that rationality will give everyone the same preferences |
20:03:39 | Sat-an | I wonder if our assumptions are irrational: they are leaps of faith. |
20:04:13 | Lucifer | But to the extent that we share experiences shouldn't rational people converge on explanations at least? |
20:04:24 | Sat-an | One would hope so. |
20:04:43 | Lucifer | Is it possible that irrational people find it easier to agree with each other? |
20:04:54 | rhino | hey Lucifer |
20:04:59 | rhino | the chat started, i see |
20:05:12 | Sat-an | Ego tends to interfere a bit though. Folks tend to spend a lot of time defending thier favorite theories instead of honestly looking for the truth. |
20:05:19 | Lucifer | I was thinking that might be the case because if the other irrational person says something vaguely similar they leap to the conclusion that they agree |
20:05:27 | Ophis | Ophis (~Ophis@[death to spam].116-81-202-209.hyperlinx.net) has joined #virus |
20:05:32 | Lucifer | hey rhino, jump on in, Ophis too |
20:05:33 | Mermaid | hey Ophis |
20:05:41 | Ophis | Hello People |
20:05:47 | rhino | two questions: first, does everyone have the same concept of rationality |
20:06:02 | goomba | i dont even have one concept of rationality :P |
20:06:05 | Lucifer | rhino, no I think obviously not |