| 2003-10-28 20:00:16
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| 20:00:16 | Lucifer | Let's start off with definitions |
| 20:00:18 | rhino | heh, i could do that with a capitalist |
| 20:00:26 | Lucifer | no doubt |
| 20:00:41 | Lucifer | Tonight's chat is "socialism vs. capitalism" |
| 20:00:56 | rhino | oh, it is time |
| 20:01:00 | Lucifer | * Lucifer nods |
| 20:01:18 | rhino | should we narrow it down to more specific things? |
| 20:01:24 | Lucifer | What do we mean by the two ideologies, and how are they at odds? |
| 20:01:29 | rhino | such as rent or wages? |
| 20:01:55 | Lucifer | rent control and minimum wage are certainly the topics that inspired this one |
| 20:02:19 | rhino | hmm... one which should acccepted around here is... to what extent should state get involved |
| 20:02:26 | Ophis | Ophis (Ophis@[death to spam].37.20.252.64.snet.net) has joined #virus |
| 20:02:37 | Ophis | :-) I like the topic |
| 20:02:49 | Lucifer | * Lucifer welcomes Ophis |
| 20:02:50 | rhino | i guessed as much |
| 20:02:57 | rhino | hey ophis |
| 20:03:04 | prometheus | Hi, Ophis. I knew you could not miss this one. |
| 20:03:15 | Ophis | I was afraid it'd be something like this... I've got tons of homework to do but that'll have to wait :-) |
| 20:03:30 | Lucifer | For at least 60 mins |
| 20:03:41 | Lucifer | :D |
| 20:04:01 | Ophis | It will... probably for a couple of hours :-) |
| 20:04:11 | Lucifer | rhino, I think it would be ideal to come up with some general principles first, then try to apply them to specific problems like rent control and minimum wage |
| 20:04:33 | rhino | before we go into the market, should we say anything about property? |
| 20:04:47 | rhino | It is a moot question whether the origin of any kind of property is derived from nature at all... It is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance. By an universal law, indeed, whatever, whether fixed or movable, belongs to all men equally and in common is the property for the moment of him who occupies it; but when he relinquishes the occupation, |
| 20:04:49 | Ophis | It's the most fundamental principle of capitalism |
| 20:04:49 | Lucifer | Yes, that is pretty fundamental |
| 20:04:56 | prometheus | Private property is the basis of capitalism. |
| 20:05:13 | rhino | what do you think of what jefferson said |
| 20:05:24 | rhino | the last sentence |
| 20:05:37 | rhino | is it correct? |
