| 2003-12-23 20:00:24
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| 20:00:24 | Lucifer | time for the chat to begin |
| 20:00:37 | Lucifer | Today's topic is on whether information can be owned |
| 20:01:01 | Lucifer | How should we begin? |
| 20:01:03 | Ophis | That's a scary thought to me |
| 20:01:19 | localroger | How about the difference between "can" and "should?" |
| 20:01:26 | Lucifer | I thought this would be of special interest to the content creators here |
| 20:01:33 | localroger | * localroger coughs |
| 20:01:42 | Ophis | * Ophis looks at localroger |
| 20:02:01 | Ophis | Do you think info can or should be owned? |
| 20:02:12 | Lucifer | I had assumed that if information can't be owned that whether it should is a moot point |
| 20:02:23 | Ophis | indeed |
| 20:03:00 | localroger | The ability to own information is subject to its ability to be hacked, which my experience tends to make me think it can't be owned. |
| 20:03:28 | Lucifer | I'm not sure what you mean localroger |
| 20:03:32 | localroger | But if you allow the law to intrude (is that upside-down or what?) things get different. |
| 20:04:01 | Ophis | hmmm, I have shivers just thinking about it |
| 20:04:40 | localroger | If you are a mega-corporation with 50 levels of $1 million security on your data, your data is still only as secure as the ability of a 15yo with too much time on his hands to probe your server. |
| 20:05:18 | Ophis | So we're talking about protecting trade secrets here. Like the Coca-Cola recipe. |
| 20:05:38 | localroger | If you are joe blow novelist, your data is only as secure as the law that prevents your publisher's competitor from copying your well-received book and re-publishing it without paying you a dime. |
| 20:06:02 | localroger | Ophis, it's not that simple. |
| 20:06:40 | Lucifer | Which law covers all jurisdictions? |
| 20:06:56 | Ophis | George W. Bush's law |
| 20:06:59 | localroger | Well, no law covers ALL jurisdictions, if you're talking about the Earth. |
| 20:07:02 | Ophis | :-) (only kidding) |
| 20:07:17 | Lucifer | Right, so the law only helps in some countries |
| 20:07:38 | Ophis | And as soon as the book is out of the country, we face the same problem again |
| 20:08:02 | localroger | Same thing kind of applies to patents |
| 20:08:27 | localroger | Joe schmoe can't afford to make 170+ patent applications but JScorp can. |
| 20:08:41 | Ophis | Good point. So do you think the copyright and patent systems are sustainable? |
| 20:09:33 | localroger | I don't know. I think something like them is necessary in a capitalist socitety, but that doesn't inform as to whether it is or isn't workable. |
| 20:10:15 | Ophis | If I was an author, I'd write books and articles for free on a popular web site (like K5) until I gained enough notoriety for a publisher to actually be interested to buy an original work from me. |
