| 2004-02-10 20:00:04
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| 20:00:04 | Lucifer | time to get started |
| 20:00:08 | Lucifer | welcome all |
| 20:00:23 | Lucifer | The topic this eve is the ethics of proselytization |
| 20:00:45 | Ophis | ie: is it allright to convert someone? |
| 20:00:47 | Lucifer | It was partly inspired by the story making the news these days of the proselytizing pilot |
| 20:01:20 | Ophis | I haven't read the story... |
| 20:01:29 | Ophis | * Ophis goes to visit CNN |
| 20:01:37 | daraknor | may i invite rational people? |
| 20:01:42 | Lucifer | apparently a pilot on AA asked all Christians to identify themselves (raise your hands) |
| 20:01:53 | Lucifer | then invited everyone else to discuss faith with the xtians |
| 20:02:08 | Ophis | Are you serious!? |
| 20:02:12 | Lucifer | you may invite anyone you like daraknor |
| 20:02:20 | Lucifer | true story |
| 20:02:35 | Lucifer | Did the pilot cross the line? |
| 20:02:42 | Lucifer | Should he be reprimanded? Fired? |
| 20:02:53 | Ophis | totally crossed the line. |
| 20:02:54 | hkhenson | the pilot had just got back from some intensive cult/religious training |
| 20:03:05 | hkhenson | his judgment was likely kind of warped |
| 20:03:07 | Lucifer | What would you do if you were on the plane? Would you be angry? offended? |
| 20:03:21 | prometheus | I would be amused. |
| 20:03:22 | daraknor | as someone that has prepared for defending my beliefs, i would not be offended |
| 20:03:25 | Lucifer | hkhenson, yes, that's the kind guy you want flying your plane |
| 20:03:37 | hkhenson | I would take the opportunity to convert them to be heatens. |
| 20:03:42 | Ophis | I'd be upset that the pilot (authority) is applying unwanted pressure to participate in an unwelcome activity |
| 20:03:51 | daraknor | but I would feel uncomfortable with the idea that he could at some point hold us hostage to his beliefs |
| 20:04:02 | Lucifer | Yes, there is no way to opt out, you either raise your hand or you don't |
| 20:04:16 | hkhenson | there is a famous story about a movement I started that did just that. |
| 20:04:36 | Lucifer | did just what? |
| 20:04:37 | hkhenson | the University of Arizona eventually had to quit asking what religion people favored |
| 20:04:48 | Lucifer | druids? |
