2004-04-06 20:00:03
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20:00:03 | localroger | My last trip for them was to Springdale, Arkansas where their research facility is located. |
20:00:13 | Tywick | yes indeed |
20:00:17 | Lucifer | OK, weekly chat begins now |
20:00:29 | Tywick | the best white meat there is :-P] |
20:00:29 | Lucifer | Tonight's topic is gun control and self-defence rights |
20:00:57 | Tywick | hmm where to start? |
20:01:10 | Lucifer | So first maybe we should say which side we are advocating (if any) |
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20:01:21 | Ophis | What are the sides? |
20:01:34 | Lucifer | gun control: for and against |
20:01:43 | Tywick | well first by no means do I see assault rifles fitting with-in the classification of defense |
20:01:53 | localroger | Both for and against. It all depends on "jim-bob." |
20:02:03 | Ophis | jim-bob? |
20:02:20 | localroger | We cannot let jim-bob have nukes to go at his gophers. Or mortars, or probably 50mm cannon. |
20:02:47 | localroger | At the same time, in the USA, I have to recognize that jim-bob has a gun. Or if he doesn't, his crack-dealing stepson does. |
20:02:48 | Tywick | I've never purchased a gun so I'm not sure exactly what the requirements are to obtain firearms |
20:03:15 | Lucifer | Generally, should the populace have to register with the state in order to own a firearm (assume a normal hunting rifle for purposes of this question) |
20:03:16 | localroger | In the USA the requirement to obtain a firearm is that you not be a convicted felon and you wait 7 days. Manage that, and you can blow elephants away at 1000 yards. |
20:03:30 | JerryLee | good gun control is hitting your target at center mass |
20:03:39 | Ophis | :-) |
20:03:59 | Lucifer | We'll get to assault rifles and bazookas later |
20:03:59 | localroger | I personally think that's a little excessive. But in a society already so saturated with guns, I can't see preventing someone from buying a pistol or shotgun for defensive purposes, if it's not automatic and not elephant-gun bore. |
20:04:08 | Ophis | In Canada you have to take a course, an exam, apply for a license, buy the gun, and register the gun |
20:04:18 | Tywick | IMHO I think people should have to go through a similar process for a driver's license. |
20:04:34 | JerryLee | agreed Tywick |
20:04:42 | localroger | It's worth noting that Michael Moore made a special point of Canada in "Bowling for Columbine," isnce they have as many guns as we do but aren't nearly as violent. |
20:04:42 | Tywick | well just what Ophis said |
20:05:17 | Ophis | I don't know if I want to rely on Moore's movie to make my mind for or against gun control though |
20:05:28 | Lucifer | Moore blamed the media more than any sort of gun control |
20:05:35 | localroger | OTOH if you have a society that is relatively gun-free, as England *was* at one point, I can see having strict laws trying to keep it that way. |