| 2004-08-24 18:00:15
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| 18:00:15 | hkhenson | it has been done with the closely related mouse pox. |
| 18:00:24 | hkhenson | and then they did it with cowpox |
| 18:00:31 | localroger | Well I probably know enough to build an a-bomb if I had the fissionables and a few months for i-dotting and t-crossing. |
| 18:00:37 | hkhenson | making the fricking cowpox close to deadly. |
| 18:00:58 | Lucifer | OK, time to start |
| 18:01:14 | Lucifer | The topic this evening is the Proactionary Principle |
| 18:01:19 | hkhenson | for a few thousand someone with access to pox and a bit of a lab can now do something really awful. |
| 18:01:24 | Lucifer | oops, despite what I wrote in the topic :-p |
| 18:01:48 | Lucifer | the Precautionary Principle is of course related and in a sense diametrically opposed |
| 18:02:09 | Lucifer | The motivation for this chat is the ongoing vote: http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=;action=voteResults;idvote=80 |
| 18:02:19 | Lucifer | Should the CoV endorse the Proactionary Principle? |
| 18:02:45 | hkhenson | lucifer, I would vote on that mainly as a political point |
| 18:02:57 | Lucifer | The motivation for the vote came from the first Transcolloquium meeting (also ongoing) |
| 18:02:58 | hkhenson | what makes CoV look better, responsible etc |
| 18:03:01 | localroger | I believe it is overstated. |
| 18:03:34 | hkhenson | because i don't think that the people who could use it the most are likely to pay any attention at all. |
| 18:03:37 | Lucifer | the CoV is one of about 20 transhumanist organizations that was invited to this online meeting |
| 18:04:13 | hkhenson | ghod are there 20 transhumanist organizations? |
| 18:04:14 | Lucifer | we are currently discussing whether to issue a press release saying something to the effect of These N orgs endorse the Proactionary Principle |
| 18:04:51 | Lucifer | check the list>> http://www.transcolloquium.org/ |
| 18:05:00 | hkhenson | david, are there as many as 1000 members all together? |
| 18:05:01 | Futura | * Futura tickles hkhenson |
| 18:05:14 | Lucifer | Mode change [-v Futura] on #virus by Lucifer |
| 18:05:17 | localroger | I think it would be a mistake until you have at least read something equally eloquent in its defense of the precautionary principle. |
| 18:05:30 | Lucifer | localroger, sure that is a good point |
| 18:05:32 | hkhenson | that's ok, i don't mind being tickeled by a droid |
| 18:05:45 | Lucifer | plenty of time for tickling after the chat |
| 18:06:06 | hkhenson | :-) |
| 18:06:29 | localroger | * localroger is looking for a reference |
| 18:06:41 | Lucifer | One angle I would like to take with this is to ask what the CoV would change in the Pro Princ. in order to endorse it |
