| 2004-08-31 18:00:13
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| 18:00:13 | Lucifer | Welcome everyone to the weekly chat |
| 18:00:21 | Flux | it died? but the meme will live on |
| 18:00:21 | Lucifer | Tonight's topic is When is self-deception rational? |
| 18:00:23 | WW | thank you Lucifer |
| 18:00:47 | Lucifer | This was inspired by a comment by Robin Hanson at the recent TV04 conference |
| 18:00:55 | Flux | heh |
| 18:01:14 | Lucifer | He suggested that people disagree today because they aren't rational, and they aren't rational because they evolved to be self-deceptive |
| 18:01:20 | hkhenson | I can make a short statement on this subject |
| 18:01:25 | WW | First. Is self-deception really possible? |
| 18:01:28 | Lucifer | go ahead hkhenson |
| 18:01:38 | Lucifer | WW, are you joking? |
| 18:01:47 | hkhenson | it is never in your interest to be self deceptive. |
| 18:01:54 | Lucifer | Almost everyone thinks they are above average in everything |
| 18:01:57 | WW | Joking, or just stupid I guess. |
| 18:02:13 | hkhenson | it is sometimes in the interest of your genes that you are self-deceptive. |
| 18:02:27 | localroger | Lucifer: which really annoys those of us who really are... [tha-dump] |
| 18:02:37 | Flux | but genes = interest |
| 18:02:38 | Lucifer | localroger :-p |
| 18:02:47 | hkhenson | as an example, you are self deceptive which makes you more convincing when you tell her you love her |
| 18:03:05 | hkhenson | for one night :-) |
| 18:03:18 | WW | * WW sees others as self-deceptive but not himself. Maybe that's a clue ;) |
| 18:03:24 | hkhenson | this might get you another descendent at low cost |
| 18:03:42 | hkhenson | well, low cost before DNA and court ordered payments |
| 18:03:52 | Lucifer | heh, good point |
| 18:03:53 | hkhenson | DNA testing |
| 18:04:16 | rhino | Lucifer, is the chat now? |
| 18:04:20 | rhino | or did the time change? |
| 18:04:27 | WW | Can self-deception be genetically tested for? |
| 18:04:27 | Lucifer | started 4 minutes ago |
| 18:04:30 | hkhenson | flux, you can have different interest than those of your genes |
