From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Mon Jan 07 2002 - 23:16:51 MST
On 7 Jan 2002 at 8:19, Mermaid . wrote:
> [Kirk]Joe, Chime in here on this one. Yash is purporting the creation of a
> language (Vedic math) to fit a previously constructed meme (Pi), such that
> it can be proved that this language, through the meter of it's verse
> mathematically proves the exsistance of some mystical fluffy-earred
> white-bunniness of a GATOR BAIT proposal.
>
> [Mermaid]Hmmm..Joe..what can I say about Joe...I would have never gotten
> into this severe investigation that I conduct of every poster in COV if Joe
> hadnt showed me that there is an emotional, tortured Joe and then there is a
> rational, intelligent, witty and acedemic Joe. Joe gets all pink, moist and
> excited only when it comes to emotional pinpricks...like Allie<impatiently>,
> 9/11<rightly>, Moslems<not justified>, Islam<understandably>, me<who knows
> why..*giggle*..> etc...which was why it was important to slap Joe right
> across the face sharply to arrest the hysteria. When rational people react
> with panic, fear or extreme emotional distress without having the ability to
> sit down and have one good, hearty cry, a slap across the face will calm
> them down instantly. Its the next best thing to a great big hug.
>
> [Mermaid]As far as Joe's acedemic input to this list is concerned, Joe has
> never..NEVER...never EVER...gotten entangled into arguments or discussions
> unless he is absolutely sure about what he is talking about...
>
> Now the story...
>
> [Mermaid]When I was younger, my mother taught me how to read our native
> language. English was my language of medium. French was my second language
> and Hindi was my third language.<yes, we had a third language> She was
> appalled and disgusted that I didnt know my native tongue.<Eventually, I did
> learn my native tongue for some 5 years..>So anyways..., I could speak it
> very well, but couldnt write or read the language. She would sit me beside
> her and spread all her books of fiction around us. She would teach me how to
> spell and read the titles of her fiction collection. I digress. Anyways,
> there was one particular title that I never forgot. Roughly translated it
> means, "The crocodiles at the river's bank".
>
> [Mermaid]Years later, I asked her about the book's title. The story is a
> social drama and it narrates the lives of certain people and certain men.
> These men, like crocodiles, lie low. They would be stone-still with
> unblinking eyes...hardly bringing attention to themselves. They are the
> breathing rocks which come to life at the right moment. They would wait
> until someone walks close to them. They wouldnt move. Their eyes are
> focussed on their subject. Unwavering concentration. Their presence will not
> even be registered. They would wait until their victim is close enough for
> them and when the time is right, they would grab them and drag them into the
> water...in ONE BIG SNAP...She said...there are people in this world who
> would scare you and make a lot of noise, unsettle you, disturb your
> concentration but those arent the ones you should be protect yourself
> against...for in their excitement they would probably hurt themselves
> first...but look out for the crocodiles waiting at the river's bank...they
> are silent and patient and they WILL get what they want...but they move only
> when they feel a want...
>
> [Mermaid]I suspect that Joe is like the crocodile. He will not bite until he
> knows there is something to bite. Until then, he is only a breathing rock
> here. Do not disturb him.
>
> [Mermaid]A note: why wont you read my sources and try to understand why it
> seems more like a mneumonic trick to me rather than blindly taking the line
> that it has to be about evil religious heads or some mystical fluffy white
> earred bunny? If you hold to some opinion, CONVINCE ME! I am open to it.
> Everything I have read and what I have read is public knowledge by now has
> led me to believe that irrespective of its title, vedic mathematics is about
> numbers and memory ...not about gods and hidden codes.
>
> [Mermaid]People were religious. People prayed in Sanskrit. People who built
> sacrificial altars need to know the value of Pi, even if it was handed down
> from the Sulbasutras which were earlier handed down from Babylonian sources.
> To remember a value, they had to remember it and what easier way for
> priests-mathematicians-creators of sacrificial altars to Gods to remember a
> numerical value than a prayer to a diety? I have laid my reasoning, logic
> and sources bare and naked on the table. You havent. Neither has
> Hermit...despite his screeching, he hasnt.
>
> [Mermaid]When was the last time someone held to an idea here purely because
> of the merits of his sources and not depending on second hand conclusions?
>
> [Mermaid]Has the inbreeding of ideas and intellectual incest in COV finally
> resulted in permenant retardation and blindness?
>
An interesting book (his second best - his best being his extended
ironic cold war allegory MEMOIRS FOUND IN A BATHTUB, and his
third best being THE CHAIN OF CHANCE, a murder mystery where
probability itself is discovered to be the culprit) written by the stellar
Polish sci-fi author Stanislaw Lem is HIS MASTER'S VOICE, in which it
is found that a code has been left us by an alien race. Midway through
the book, someone gets the idea that it functions like a rorshach test,
enlightening its sender, by virtue of relaying the array of deciphering
attempts in response, as to the character and intelligence of the
decipherers. At the end of the book, after supposedly revolutionary
mathematical, ohysics and technological developments have been
purportedly teased from the enigma, it is noticed that its sequence is
precisely PI, minus the first few hundred digits.
As to being bitchslapped, the only slapping merdemade has done when
she attempted to slap me was to herself; disgusting, slobbery self-slaps,
much like what a bulldog does when it sticks its snout out of the window
of a speeding car.
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