From: athe nonrex (athenonrex@godisdead.com)
Date: Wed Mar 27 2002 - 13:33:24 MST
>[hermit 2] Anything \"outside of time\" is by definition \"outside our Universe\" except as an imaginary object. Nothing \"outside our Universe\" can, by definition, interact with anything \"inside our Universe\"
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>[athenonrex 3] how do you know, you ever been outside of this universe? who\'s to say there aren\'t beings (godly or not, you decide) that can jump from
>universe to universe in a sea of multi verses which is really a megaverse?
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>[Hermit 4] This is a particularly poor argument. One does not have to be a rapist to condemn rapists, nor to have been somewhere to be able to discuss it or things about it.
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>[Hermit 4] In any case, I can discuss it without having been outside the Universe. From Special Relativity, we know that our Universe has consistent laws. Thus without rescinding Special Relativity, we know that anything within our Universe is subject to the same laws - including the laws relating to energy, QM and information. Thus, if something can interact with our Universe (even \"just\" information), then it must be exchanging energy with our Universe. Thus, it is, by definition, in our Universe.
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[athenonrex 5]
how many times has science determined that *this* or *that* is a
universal constant or law, only for it to be disproven later? all i'm
saying (in essence) is there are no "absolutes" (which, i suppose, is
a self-negating concept). i'm also trying to convey that our minds are
incapable of computing the whole of the universe, which allows us to
come up with these universal constants that often are disproven.
>[athenonrex 3] i stated that there were no definite answers at the beginning of this thread. that this was supposed to be speculation, that\'s [i]why[/i] it\'s so
>fun.
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>[Hermit 4] Avoid investing too much energy in fun which contravenes well established laws. There are so many fun areas which don\'t. Any of which is likely to be more profitable.
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[athenonrex 5]
profitable by who's standards? what i search for in life, what really
turns me on, gets me pumped, throws my nose to the grindstone could
and most likely is completely different than what does it for you.
come on, hermit. you know that don't you?
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