RE: virus: Facts on illegal immigrant health care costs to the rest of "us"

From: Jonathan Davis (jonathan.davis@lineone.net)
Date: Fri Jun 20 2003 - 12:57:22 MDT

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    Hi Hermit,

    Just for the sake of final clarification - I did not say that immigrants
    from specific countries were ipso facto good or bad because of their
    nationality. Quite the opposite. There are good and bad from all countries -
    yet there is little or no discrimination in the system.

    As for the health system, fresh in my mind was an article I read last week:
    "Aids-infected asylum seekers 'overwhelm UK hospitals'" [
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F06%2F15%2Fnh
    iv15.xml ] . When the doctors start to plead for help it is usually serious.

    Regarding that BBC article, I find it absurd that nutty beaurocrats can
    refuse treatment to a boy who has gone about things legally, whilst
    literally hundreds of thousands pour across the border every year and are
    entitled to full benefits that citizens have despite the fact they are
    illegal immigrants.

    That's Britain for you.

    Kind regards

    Jonathan

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com] On Behalf Of
    Hermit
    Sent: 20 June 2003 17:32
    To: virus@lucifer.com

    Oh dear, I thought we were talking about the US, not the desireability of
    "good" Eastern European, African, Filipino and South American immigrants or
    the undesireability of "bad" immigrants (from where? China and the Islamic
    countries are the only significant ommisions I see on the above list). But
    while looking at the UK, perhaps the situation vis a vis health services is
    not as "bad" as you imagine: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2543705.stm
    while perhaps the fraud occuring is not just immigrants
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/2963832.stm

    As it is, the reason that medical schemes fail is usually because they
    encompass millions of legitimate trivial claims, not because of fraud or
    expensive treatments.

    Hermit 

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