From: Jake Sapiens (every1hz@earthlink.net)
Date: Tue Aug 19 2003 - 16:18:48 MDT
I am willing to back off of my suggestion to ban Joe, if we institute some
sort of flooding controls on at least him. Perhaps on everyone if we feel
we need to for fairness, but I think it would be plenty fair to to limit it to
just Joe at this point considering the incredible magnitude and duration of his
flooding. Everyone who has responded so far to this "Enough is
enough" thread (with the possible exception of Metahuman aka "Demon", who seems
to have fallen in love with Joe's company), seems to agree that Joe has
been out of control for quite some time. Some have expressed a little
faint-heartedness at banning him permanently, something I personally think is
long overdue. Imposing a posting limit on Joe would still allow him to
participate as a member of this community without subjecting everyone else to
his bad flooding habits. Considering that Joe seems unable to control
himself in this regard, this may actually aid him in winning back some
respect. Until we are able to agree to some form of the above
suggested solutions to the Joe problem, I continue to urge my position that we
permanently remove Joe from the Church of the Virus community.
-Jake
----- Original Message -----
From: Dr Sebby
Sent: 8/19/2003 12:30:53 PM
Subject: Re: virus: Enough is enough.
...yes, the Joe question is a difficult one. i recall a time
where i
thought very highly of him...indeed, it took a long long time for him to
erode my impression of him...a long time and several thousand
posts.
however it is a bit daunting to actually ban someone. i agree
with Jake for
the most part, but we've never had to ban anyone and it's a bit of a sad
thing to start doing so now. Joe seems to have gotten a little
better as of
late, i therefore wonder if he couldnt make further efforts in this
direction of self-moderation, and more controlled passions. i
suspect that
Joe has incidentally wound up in a personal space somewhat like a hole
where
he cant see the landscape around him...just the walls of his
hole. i think
other people/situations dug the beginnings of this hole for him, but he's
done an outstanding job of continued digging - whereby he no longer sees
things as they are.
...Joe, is it not reasonable that you should be able to see that by
accounting for more posts than the next 13 people combined, youre really
straying off on your own here? and that other CoVians are
extremely miffed
by the results? the word "abuse" seems to apply here, doesnt
it? anyways,
that's my two cents.....edit thyself a bit i would say.
DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows----
From: BIll Roh billroh@churchofvirus.com
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re: virus: Enough is enough.
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:03:06 -0700
Jake is right.
That said. I think the crime of topic spam should be enforced in a manner
similar to verbal attacks. I do not think banning Joe is the answer. I
think
even objectivly, he has been a great asset to the church. The time since
9-11 has made the split between personalities here at the CoV more evedent.
If 9-11 never happened, I think you might feel a little differently about
Joe.
None the less, the spam has got to stop, and the taunting has got to stop.
I
prefer the rule of the Sheriff and our law, to simply takin' him to the
tree.
Reason - Empathy - Vision
Tools for a healthy mind
Bill Roh
Jake Sapiens wrote:
[quote from: metahuman on 2003-08-18 at 22:28:11] Joe is a pretty
important
figure in this community. Not as much as Lucifer, Kharin, Rhino,
Lukian,
and Elvensage, but still a critical element.
Joe's actions disagree with you. By his actions he thinks
that he is more
important that Lucifer, Kharin, Rhino, Lukian, Elvensage, you, and at
least
half a dozen more active posters on the Church of the Virus
combined. In
his mind, he isn't just a "pretty important figure", he is the ONLY
important figure. Well, perhaps David is important to him as
the sheriff,
because he feels that he needs the sheriff to silence others.
-Jake
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