From: Jake Sapiens (every1hz@earthlink.net)
Date: Mon Aug 18 2003 - 22:26:02 MDT
The reputation system is valuable in that it finally provides a collective
standardized measure of the feedback of almost all of the central figures who
have been involved in building Church of Virus. Whether or not Joe thinks
it fair or not, one thing is certain, it does not lie. Another thing that
does not lie is the list of the top 100 posters. After you discover that
Joe Dees is consistently rated dead last in the reputation system, then I
encourage you to check out the top one hundred in posting volume. It
doesn't lie either. Here you will note that not only does Joe spew more
than anybody else, he does so by many orders of magnitude. I urge each of
you to start with the number 2 poster (Hermit) and start working your way down
the list, adding each successive participants number of posts to the
total. Now how long does it take for you to come up with a total that
equals Joe's volume. I did this and discovered that Joe Dees' volume is
more than the next 13 COMBINED!!! (sorry for the caps, but it simply couldn't be
avoided. Now let's see who all is included in that 13. I will just
limit this to people who have been around and are still around throughout most
of the reign of Joe Dees. Others have left since, and still others or
relatively newer. But just to put some personalities into the mix, . . .
Hermit, myself, David, Kharin, Walter, and Bill Roh. Joe feels himself so
incredibly important, that apparently he thinks that he has more important
things to say that all six of these people combined. We can even move
afield from Church of the Virus and learn that Joe has also had to be moderated
in other forums. The memetics list sponsored by the Journal of Memetics
comes to mind, as well as at least one of the Extropy forums. Sure Joe can
wail about Hermit taking a jab at his mother, but I have never known Hermit to
get moderated elsewhere. And the one time that he was moderated in the
Church of the Virus it was due largely to his frustration with Joe which I
entirely understand, even though I personally wouldn't have taken it out the way
that Hermit did.
Let's face up to the facts and realize that Joe, by his actions over
several years has effectively and unilaterally appointed himself the most
important person in the Church of the Virus. Now that silencing other
people has become part of the menu, Joe Dees has not surprisingly been the first
person to dash up to the buffet to exercise what he sees as his earned
right. Basically if you dare to point out the very reasonable and obvious
observation that Joe Dees is a memebot of no redeeming value to this community
(indeed one whose permanent banning is long overdue), he will move to silence
you. It's not enough that he has claimed the largest three megaphones that
he could find to scream into, he will try to silence you if you point this
out. Indeed, now I am on trial accused of this very offense. It can,
and probably will be someone else tom morrow. Is this what we really
want? How long does this have to go on before Joe Dees is permanently
removed from Church of the Virus. It isn't as if he is just a newbie
caught in some momentary stupidity as they test the waters for the first
time. We are talking about what is now stretching into YEARS of stupid
memebot behavior. This isn't just a casual insult. It happens to be
true and very pertinent to what we want the Church of the Virus to be and to
become.
Lets do the right thing and remove this cancer for good.
Sincerely,
-Jake
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