RE: virus: Atheism, Agnosticism, Noncognitivism (1998) Theodore M. Drange

From: Blunderov (squooker@mweb.co.za)
Date: Fri Aug 22 2003 - 15:56:44 MDT

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    was an interesting read. I had not realized that I was a noncognitive.
    At last! A philososphy I can claim as my home. Maybe a poll of what
    particular class of atheist or agnostic we consider ourselves to be
    would be interesting?

    Some heavy snippage of the above essay.

    <snip>
    (1) Does the sentence "God exists" express a proposition?
    (2) If so, then is that proposition true or false?

    <snip>
    A noncognitivist is someone who declares that the sentence does not
    express any proposition at all.

    A theist is someone who allows that the sentence expresses a proposition
    and who classifies the proposition as true or probably true.

    An atheist is someone who allows that the sentence expresses a
    proposition and who classifies the proposition as false or probably
    false.

    An agnostic is someone who allows that the sentence expresses a
    proposition, and who grants that he/she knows what that proposition is,
    but who is noncommittal about its truth or falsity on the grounds of
    insufficient evidence.

    <snip>

    Disproof atheists, who claim that there is good objective evidence for
    God's nonexistence, and if there is any good objective evidence at all
    for God's existence, it is significantly outweighed by the evidence for
    God's nonexistence.

    Methodological atheists, who claim that there is no good objective
    evidence either for God's existence or for God's nonexistence, but there
    is a certain methodological principle which places the burden of proof
    upon theists, and since they fail to meet that principle, the only
    rational position to take is that of atheism. (Some methodological
    atheists formulate the principle by saying that the burden of proof is
    always on any person making an existence claim, since, from a logical
    point of view, existence claims are only capable of proof, not disproof.
    No one has ever proven the nonexistence of Santa Claus, or elves, or
    unicorns, or anything else, simply because the very logic of an
    unrestricted existential proposition prohibits its disproof. It is
    impossible to go all over the universe and show that, for example, there
    are no elves anywhere. For this reason, rational methodology calls for
    us to deny the existence of all those things which have never been shown
    to exist. That is why we all regard it rational to deny the existence of
    Santa Claus, elves, unicorns, etc. And since God is in that same
    category, having never been shown to exist, it follows that rational
    methodology calls for us to deny the existence of God.)

    Mystical atheists, who claim that there is no rational support for
    theism or atheism, but who believe in God's nonexistence on the basis of
    a private, subjective, mystical experience.

    Faith atheists, who accept atheism, not on the basis of any grounds or
    experiences, but simply on the basis of "faith," regarding it to be a
    "properly basic belief." They say that one could be rational in
    accepting a noetic system that has atheism as its foundational
    presupposition, since there is no good objective evidence for God's
    existence.
    </snip>

    Regards
    Blunderov

    PS Referent - Thanks for the valuable propaganda link
    http://www.propagandacritic.com/

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