virus: Re:The Disciplinary Process of the Church of Virus

From: Hermit (virus@hermit.net)
Date: Sun Oct 05 2003 - 11:37:26 MDT

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    Crime: Murders (per capita) Source: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_cap

    1. Colombia 0.65 per 1000 people
    2. South Africa 0.5 per 1000 people (Interpol data, reflects 59 murders per 100'000 ie 0.59 and Nedbank data indicates that South African farmers now suffer the highest murder rate in the world at 274 per 100'000.
    3. Jamaica 0.33 per 1000 people
    4. Venezuela 0.33 per 1000 people
    5. Russia 0.2 per 1000 people
    6. Mexico 0.13 per 1000 people
    7. Lithuania 0.1 per 1000 people
    8. Estonia 0.1 per 1000 people
    9. Latvia 0.1 per 1000 people
    10. Belarus 0.1 per 1000 people
    11. Ukraine 0.09 per 1000 people
    12. Papua New Guinea 0.09 per 1000 people
    13. Kyrgyzstan 0.09 per 1000 people
    14. Thailand 0.08 per 1000 people
    15. Zimbabwe 0.08 per 1000 people
    16. Zambia 0.08 per 1000 people
    17. Moldova 0.08 per 1000 people
    18. Seychelles 0.07 per 1000 people
    19. Costa Rica 0.06 per 1000 people
    20. Poland 0.06 per 1000 people
    21. Georgia 0.05 per 1000 people
    22. Uruguay 0.05 per 1000 people
    23. United States 0.05 per 1000 people
    24. Bulgaria 0.04 per 1000 people
    25. Armenia 0.04 per 1000 people
    26. Yemen 0.04 per 1000 people
    27. India 0.04 per 1000 people
    28. Azerbaijan 0.03 per 1000 people
    29. Finland 0.03 per 1000 people
    30. Dominica 0.03 per 1000 people
    31. Slovakia 0.03 per 1000 people
    32. Romania 0.03 per 1000 people
    33. Portugal 0.02 per 1000 people
    34. Malaysia 0.02 per 1000 people
    35. Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of 0.02 per 1000 people
    36. Mauritius 0.02 per 1000 people
    37. Hungary 0.02 per 1000 people
    38. Korea, South 0.02 per 1000 people
    39. Slovenia 0.02 per 1000 people
    40. Iceland 0.02 per 1000 people
    41. France 0.02 per 1000 people
    42. Czech Republic 0.02 per 1000 people
    43. Australia 0.02 per 1000 people
    44. Canada 0.02 per 1000 people
    45. Chile 0.02 per 1000 people
    46. United Kingdom 0.01 per 1000 people
    47. Italy 0.01 per 1000 people
    48. Spain 0.01 per 1000 people
    49. Germany 0.01 per 1000 people
    50. New Zealand 0.01 per 1000 people
    51. Tunisia 0.01 per 1000 people
    52. Netherlands 0.01 per 1000 people
    53. Norway 0.01 per 1000 people
    54. Denmark 0.01 per 1000 people
    55. Ireland 0.01 per 1000 people
    56. Indonesia 0.01 per 1000 people
    57. Switzerland 0.01 per 1000 people
    58. Greece 0.01 per 1000 people
    59. Hong Kong 0.01 per 1000 people
    60. Japan 0.01 per 1000 people
    61. Saudi Arabia 0 per 1000 people
    62. Qatar 0 per 1000 people
    Total 180,304
    Weighted Avg 0.06 per 1000 people

    Perhaps Mermaid would like to try to rearrange these countries to show that the more tribal countries have lower murder rates.

    There is one country where a direct contrast between Western Government and Tribalism is possible. This is of course South Africa. In the 44 years from 1950 to 1993, there was an average of 7036 murders per year. This covers the entire "apartheid period". About 60% of those murders were black on black, many in "hostel wars" which were purely tribal. However, since the ANC took office, the murder rate in South Africa has averaged 47 882 per year (Interpol Data) - and due to the South African governments "moratorium" on crime statistics (and lack of statisticians), we no longer have data on the tribal affiliations of murderers and their victims. More information available at http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html
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    Murder = "Unlawful killing". Judicial executions are not generally regarded as unlawful though they might be distasteful.

    And while I generally agree that the death penalty should be abolished: Source: http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGACT500052003?open&of=ENG-392During2, at least 1,526 prisoners were executed in 31 countries and at least 3,248 people were sentenced to death in 67 countries. These figures include only cases known to Amnesty International; the true figures are certainly higher.

    In 2002, 81 per cent of all known executions took place in China, Iran and the USA. In China, the limited and incomplete records available to Amnesty International at the end of the year indicated that at least 1,060 people were executed, but the true figure was believed to be much higher. At least 113 executions were carried out in Iran. Seventy-one people were executed in the USA.

    Given a total of 71 executions in the entire USA, perhaps Mermaid would like to reconsider her "Texas frying thousands of 'criminals' every year" claim. 

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