From: Pat (patudelan@goalsnet.com.pe)
Date: Tue Jan 13 2004 - 12:05:23 MST
ARE YOU INVITEING ME? OR WHAT?
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>>Actually, what this probably means is that Bush wants more
>>Death Star satellites orbiting the planet. I hear the maser
>>satellites are getting quite advanced, and having the ability
>>to fry anybody on this planet, anytime, anywhere, is quite cool.
>>It also supports and coincides with the conquest of the planet
>>that seems to be the Bush team's stated goal.
>>
>>Moon and Mars colonization are just the means to sell the
>>space militarization and it's astronomical costs to the public,
>>the same as it was with liberating Iraq from terror and wmd.
>>
>>So, I wouldn't bet so much on seeing people on the moon, as
>>seeing killer satellites beaming and frying people down on Earth.
>>
>>On Sat, 10 Jan 2004, Mermaid wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > [quote from: DrSebby on 2004-01-10 at 01:11:22]
>> > ...if bush could somehow push some financing towards such a moon
>> venture, i
>> > would see it as a much deserved albeit out of place gesture of humanity
>> > before he is banished from office.
>> >
>> > [Mermaid]you think? here ya go....bush *does* seems to have the idea
>> to colonise the moon...
>> >
>> > imo, it seems like yet another election promise..like the one about
>> legalising all hispanic illegal immigrants. but then again, bush might
>> have genuine interest in claiming the moon and the red planet for J.C.
>> >
>> > Bush Plans Missions to the Moon, Mars
>> >
>> > By MARCIA DUNN, AP Aerospace Writer
>> >
>> > CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - President Bush (news - web sites) is planning a
>> > permanent science base for astronauts on the moon that could serve as a
>> > steppingstone for sending humans ultimately on to Mars, according to
>> > senior administration officials.
>> >
>> > The president wants to aggressively reinvigorate the space program,
>> > still reeling from the Columbia tragedy nearly one year ago, said the
>> > officials, speaking on condition of anonymity.
>> >
>> > White House press secretary Scott McClellan confirmed that Bush would
>> > deliver a speech Wednesday describing his vision of the long-term
>> > direction of the space program, but he did not reveal what Bush would
>> > say.
>> >
>> > "The president is strongly committed to the exploration of space,"
>> > McClellan said Friday.
>> >
>> > A major question is how to pay for an expensive space initiative while
>> > the nation is struggling with record budget deficits and the high costs
>> > of the war against terrorism.
>> >
>> > McClellan said that the White House budget office was involved in the
>> > administration's space review, and that Bush will "put forth a
>> > responsible budget that meets our highest priorities while working to
>> > hold the line of spending elsewhere in the budget."
>> >
>> > A Nobel-winning physicist who investigated the shuttle accident is among
>> > those who would rather see more affordable robots — rather than
>> > astronauts — exploring the lunar and Martian surfaces. He points to NASA
>> > (news - web sites)'s Spirit rover newly arrived at Mars.
>> >
>> > "The cost of a manned enclave on the moon, I think, is going to make the
>> > space station look cheap. That's the only good thing about it," said
>> > Stanford University's Douglas Osheroff.
>> >
>> > In any event, "I think we're still 30 years from going to Mars and if
>> > there's any reason to do that, I don't know," Osheroff said.
>> >
>> > NASA officials did not return phone calls.
>> >
>> > Bush does not intend to propose sending Americans to Mars anytime soon,
>> > but instead envisions preparing for a Mars expedition more than a decade
>> > from now, one administration official said.
>> >
>> > The White House has been looking for a new revitalizing role for NASA
>> > for months, with Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) leading
>> > the interagency task force since summer. The speculation over a major
>> > space initiative began heating up in early December.
>> >
>> > Rep. Ralph Hall, R-Texas, a member of the House Science Committee,
>> > welcomed the news that Bush would be making an announcement about space.
>> >
>> > Hall said he has long been trying to get the president more interested
>> > in space exploration. The president never went to Johnson Space Center
>> > in Houston while serving as Texas governor; in fact, last February's
>> > memorial service for the seven Columbia astronauts was his first visit.
>> >
>> > Bush's fresh interest in space happens to coincide with an election
>> > year. A new bold space initiative, it is thought, could excite
>> > Americans.
>> >
>> > "I had the feeling the last 2 1/2 years people would rather make a trip
>> > to the grocery store than a trip to the moon because of the economy,"
>> > Hall said. "As things are turning around, we need to stay in touch with
>> > space" and the science spinoffs it provides.
>> >
>> > It was the Columbia accident that helped force a discussion of where
>> > NASA should venture beyond the three remaining space shuttles and the
>> > international space station. The panel that investigated the disaster
>> > called for a clearly defined long-term mission — a national vision for
>> > space that has been missing for three decades.
>> >
>> > Astronauts last walked on the moon in 1972; in all, 12 men tread the
>> > lunar surface over a 3 1/2-year period. This time, the president favors
>> > a permanent station, administration officials said.
>> >
>> > Bush's father, on the 20th anniversary of the first manned moon landing,
>> > made a similar call for lunar colonies and a Mars expedition. But the
>> > plan was prohibitively expensive — an estimated $400 billion to $500
>> > billion — and went nowhere.
>> >
>> > No one knows what the new venture might cost or how NASA would pay for
>> > it.
>> >
>> > House Science Committee spokeswoman Heidi Tringe said lawmakers on the
>> > panel had yet to be briefed on the specifics.
>> >
>> > Earlier this week, Bush put in a congratulatory call to officials in
>> > charge of NASA's latest Mars rover. He called the Spirit rover's
>> > successful landing a "reconfirmation of the American spirit of
>> > exploration." Another rover is due to arrive at the red planet in two
>> > weeks.
>> >
>> > Many space buffs see the moon as a necessary place to test the equipment
>> > and techniques that would be needed by astronauts on Mars. It's closer,
>> > just three days away versus six months away for the red planet.
>> >
>> > Visionaries say observatories could be built on the moon and mining
>> > camps could gather helium-3 for conversion into fuel for use back on
>> > Earth.
>> >
>> > Others, however, contend that astronauts should make a beeline to Mars.
>> >
>> > Still others, including John Glenn, the first American to orbit the
>> > Earth, believes the nation should complete and fully maximize the
>> > international space station before dashing anywhere else.
>> >
>> > ___
>> >
>> > Associated Press writer Scott Lindlaw contributed to this story from
>> > Washington.
>> >
>> > link:
>> >
>> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040109/ap_on_go_pr_wh/back_to_the_moon_40
>> >
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