From: Pat (patudelan@goalsnet.com.pe)
Date: Mon Jan 12 2004 - 20:02:08 MST
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>Actually, what this probably means is that Bush wants more
>Death Star satellites orbiting the planet. I hear the maser
>satellites are getting quite advanced, and having the ability
>to fry anybody on this planet, anytime, anywhere, is quite cool.
>It also supports and coincides with the conquest of the planet
>that seems to be the Bush team's stated goal.
>
>Moon and Mars colonization are just the means to sell the
>space militarization and it's astronomical costs to the public,
>the same as it was with liberating Iraq from terror and wmd.
>
>So, I wouldn't bet so much on seeing people on the moon, as
>seeing killer satellites beaming and frying people down on Earth.
>
>On Sat, 10 Jan 2004, Mermaid wrote:
>
> >
> > [quote from: DrSebby on 2004-01-10 at 01:11:22]
> > ...if bush could somehow push some financing towards such a moon venture, i
> > would see it as a much deserved albeit out of place gesture of humanity
> > before he is banished from office.
> >
> > [Mermaid]you think? here ya go....bush *does* seems to have the idea to
> colonise the moon...
> >
> > imo, it seems like yet another election promise..like the one about
> legalising all hispanic illegal immigrants. but then again, bush might
> have genuine interest in claiming the moon and the red planet for J.C.
> >
> > Bush Plans Missions to the Moon, Mars
> >
> > By MARCIA DUNN, AP Aerospace Writer
> >
> > CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - President Bush (news - web sites) is planning a
> > permanent science base for astronauts on the moon that could serve as a
> > steppingstone for sending humans ultimately on to Mars, according to
> > senior administration officials.
> >
> > The president wants to aggressively reinvigorate the space program,
> > still reeling from the Columbia tragedy nearly one year ago, said the
> > officials, speaking on condition of anonymity.
> >
> > White House press secretary Scott McClellan confirmed that Bush would
> > deliver a speech Wednesday describing his vision of the long-term
> > direction of the space program, but he did not reveal what Bush would
> > say.
> >
> > "The president is strongly committed to the exploration of space,"
> > McClellan said Friday.
> >
> > A major question is how to pay for an expensive space initiative while
> > the nation is struggling with record budget deficits and the high costs
> > of the war against terrorism.
> >
> > McClellan said that the White House budget office was involved in the
> > administration's space review, and that Bush will "put forth a
> > responsible budget that meets our highest priorities while working to
> > hold the line of spending elsewhere in the budget."
> >
> > A Nobel-winning physicist who investigated the shuttle accident is among
> > those who would rather see more affordable robots — rather than
> > astronauts — exploring the lunar and Martian surfaces. He points to NASA
> > (news - web sites)'s Spirit rover newly arrived at Mars.
> >
> > "The cost of a manned enclave on the moon, I think, is going to make the
> > space station look cheap. That's the only good thing about it," said
> > Stanford University's Douglas Osheroff.
> >
> > In any event, "I think we're still 30 years from going to Mars and if
> > there's any reason to do that, I don't know," Osheroff said.
> >
> > NASA officials did not return phone calls.
> >
> > Bush does not intend to propose sending Americans to Mars anytime soon,
> > but instead envisions preparing for a Mars expedition more than a decade
> > from now, one administration official said.
> >
> > The White House has been looking for a new revitalizing role for NASA
> > for months, with Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) leading
> > the interagency task force since summer. The speculation over a major
> > space initiative began heating up in early December.
> >
> > Rep. Ralph Hall, R-Texas, a member of the House Science Committee,
> > welcomed the news that Bush would be making an announcement about space.
> >
> > Hall said he has long been trying to get the president more interested
> > in space exploration. The president never went to Johnson Space Center
> > in Houston while serving as Texas governor; in fact, last February's
> > memorial service for the seven Columbia astronauts was his first visit.
> >
> > Bush's fresh interest in space happens to coincide with an election
> > year. A new bold space initiative, it is thought, could excite
> > Americans.
> >
> > "I had the feeling the last 2 1/2 years people would rather make a trip
> > to the grocery store than a trip to the moon because of the economy,"
> > Hall said. "As things are turning around, we need to stay in touch with
> > space" and the science spinoffs it provides.
> >
> > It was the Columbia accident that helped force a discussion of where
> > NASA should venture beyond the three remaining space shuttles and the
> > international space station. The panel that investigated the disaster
> > called for a clearly defined long-term mission — a national vision for
> > space that has been missing for three decades.
> >
> > Astronauts last walked on the moon in 1972; in all, 12 men tread the
> > lunar surface over a 3 1/2-year period. This time, the president favors
> > a permanent station, administration officials said.
> >
> > Bush's father, on the 20th anniversary of the first manned moon landing,
> > made a similar call for lunar colonies and a Mars expedition. But the
> > plan was prohibitively expensive — an estimated $400 billion to $500
> > billion — and went nowhere.
> >
> > No one knows what the new venture might cost or how NASA would pay for
> > it.
> >
> > House Science Committee spokeswoman Heidi Tringe said lawmakers on the
> > panel had yet to be briefed on the specifics.
> >
> > Earlier this week, Bush put in a congratulatory call to officials in
> > charge of NASA's latest Mars rover. He called the Spirit rover's
> > successful landing a "reconfirmation of the American spirit of
> > exploration." Another rover is due to arrive at the red planet in two
> > weeks.
> >
> > Many space buffs see the moon as a necessary place to test the equipment
> > and techniques that would be needed by astronauts on Mars. It's closer,
> > just three days away versus six months away for the red planet.
> >
> > Visionaries say observatories could be built on the moon and mining
> > camps could gather helium-3 for conversion into fuel for use back on
> > Earth.
> >
> > Others, however, contend that astronauts should make a beeline to Mars.
> >
> > Still others, including John Glenn, the first American to orbit the
> > Earth, believes the nation should complete and fully maximize the
> > international space station before dashing anywhere else.
> >
> > ___
> >
> > Associated Press writer Scott Lindlaw contributed to this story from
> > Washington.
> >
> > link:
> >
> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040109/ap_on_go_pr_wh/back_to_the_moon_4al
> >
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