From: Dr Sebby (drsebby@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Mar 06 2004 - 07:35:32 MST
...Jei, while your principle of one power or the other forcing their values
upon others, currently cannot be denied. from a mathematical standpoint,
Islam is the least applealing of all available large scale options. it
curtails options, progress, and expansiveness.
...so as you enjoy yourself on the champs elysees on halloween night amidst
your algerian friends, keep in mind that as the current power core of the
usa is filled with shit and evil, it will pass...and although the
replacement wont be THAT much better, it will be a little better...and it
will buy us little people time to figure out how to stand up for
ourselves...even though our numbers are increasingly idiotic.
DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows----
From: Jei <jei@cc.hut.fi>
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: RE: virus: Re: virus: Déja vu All Over Again in Haiti
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 20:06:16 +0200 (EET)
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Jonathan Davis wrote:
> Evidence? Where are thou evidence?
>
> "Standard US imperialist pattern: use the CIA to prop up a dictator, wait
> until he ruins country, then “rescue” the country with an invasion."
Well, I have to admit that you can hardly see the light
if you choose to close your windows and pull on the drapes.
Please excuse my attempt to e-mail a few news articles to
enlighten you and "prove the point". - I can see this is
a waste of time as it is no use to force-feed the horse.
It will not eat unless it is hungry. - Be content in your
own set of beliefs, if you so choose.
I myself read around 300 news articles from around the world,
every single day, from as many sources as possible.
> So the CIA was propping up Saddam these last 10 years? What dictator were
> the US propping up in Kosovo and Bosnia? Who was the CIA propped dictator
in
> Afghanistan? Remind me of the name of the CIA puppet in Somalia back in
> '93....
The fact that US is going around the planet bombing people
should be proof enough that something is motivating someone,
and when it comes to war, the motivation is and has always
been ultimately about money to those who make the decisions
and take no personal risk, throughout the human history.
Draw your own conclusions as to who makes the profits and
gains the benefits in whatever conflicts you choose to observe.
> Standard paranoid hysterical propaganda bunk.
There really doesn't neet to be any kind of "conspiracy" in
the world, other than some powerful business people who share
a common attribute of greed. Cooperation and emotionless
exploitation of the ignorant inevitably follows. And seriously,
that is about as much a conspiracy as there needs to be, for
wars to take place.
There is no paranoia, there is no hysteria. There is just
simple logic that explains more than the feeble excuses of
"liberating iraqi people" or "finding WMD" or "bringing
democracy" or "liberating them from dictator". It is the
very nature of smart people to seek the explanation that
gives the most logical picture of the whole. I think a shared
greed for money is a powerful motivator of people and it
ultimately explains how and why wars happen.
It is often the nature of people to attack anything that
opposes their vision of the world, that does not coincide
with their limited beliefs. This pattern has also been repeated
many times throughout history, in many religious circles.
Fear of the different, fear of the unknown, fear of being
something that they do not want to be. Americans do not
want to be seen as nazis. - Who would want to be seen as
a nazi?
Resistance to new ideas and views is also logical. However,
I myself have found it to be most beneficial when you refuse
to abandon any new ideas outright and always keep a "what if"
view of the world. Always keep the windows open so to speak.
It helps in adopting better ideas and improving oneself.
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