From: Walter Watts (wlwatts@cox.net)
Date: Sat Mar 06 2004 - 14:46:06 MST
I've mellowed some lately.
I think I'd just make him watch "Groundhog Day" repeatedly until it sunk in.
Walter
<well, maybe the second bitch-slap)for good measure>
Dr Sebby wrote:
> ....to be honest...if this guy was responsible for loading boat guns, and
> now he claims psychological trauma, i should qualify for it as well just
> from watching the news. be he in the political right or not; it sounds
> like he probably suffers from a severe case of "whining-ass-cry-baby-pussy"
> syndrome as opposed to what he claims. Walter Watts should be able to
> easily treat this condition...correct me if i'm wrong walter, but i'm going
> to wager a guess that you'd give him a dosage of 3 sugar pills, 1 spanking,
> a good slap across the face, another good bitch-slap(for good measure), a
> scolding by his mommy, and some film footage of soldiers actually facing
> fire in combat for him to realize what a whiner he is. leave the complaints
> to those that actually deal with the nightmare of actual combat.
>
> ...should the guy packing the bombs in ohio suffer trauma as well? can
> anyone say, "b.s. lawsuits"?
>
> ...oh, and by the way....DEAN 2008!!!
>
> DrSebby.
> "Courage...and shuffle the cards".
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Jei <jei@cc.hut.fi>
> Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: virus: GI Denied Health Care After Speaking Out
> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:13:50 +0200 (EET)
>
> http://www1.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_article.php?articleId=39448&lang=enC
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0302-04.htm
>
> Mark Benjamin
>
> GI Denied Health Care After Speaking Out
> 04.03.2004 [08:12]
>
> Published on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 by UPI
>
> WASHINGTON -- An Operation Iraqi Freedom veteran says Army officials at Fort
> Knox, Ky., refused him medical treatment after he talked publicly about poor
> care at the base, which helped spark hearings in Congress.
>
> Fort Knox officials charged that soldier, Lt. Jullian Goodrum, with being
> absent without leave and cut off his pay after he then went to a private
> doctor who hospitalized him for serious mental stress from Iraq, Goodrum
> said.
>
> "They are coming after me pretty bad," said Goodrum, 33, a veteran who has
> served the military for more than 14 years, including the first Gulf War and
> Operation Iraqi Freedom.
>
> He showed United Press International a form from Fort Knox that states that
> Fort Knox officials "do not want him in medical hold." Some soldiers are
> kept on medical hold during treatment while the Army determines their
> status.
>
> Goodrum has now been hospitalized in a locked mental ward at the Walter Reed
> Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C. after turning himself in there Feb.
> 9. Doctors there say he has post-traumatic stress disorder from Iraq and
> major depression, and they worry he could hurt himself. He is not allowed to
> go down the hall from the inpatient psychiatric clinic for a Coke without an
> escort.
>
> Goodrum said stress from Iraq, and the way he has been treated by the
> military since he returned, has made him so depressed he is lucky to be
> alive. He also has injuries to both wrists, in part from loading 65-pound
> shells on the USS Missouri when he was in the Navy in the first Gulf War.
> The ship pounded Iraqi troops in Kuwait and took fire from Iraqi tanks. An
> Iraqi Silkworm missile missed her bow by 30 yards.
>
> Goodrum appeared in an Oct. 29 UPI article about more than 400 soldiers on
> medical hold at Fort Knox who were waiting weeks and sometimes months for
> medical treatment.
>
> That article, and an article on a similar situation at Fort Stewart, Ga.,
> sparked a series of hearings in Congress -- including a Jan. 21 appearance
> by Col. Keith Armstrong, garrison commander at Fort Knox, before a panel of
> the House Armed Services Committee.
>
> Fort Knox spokeswoman Connie Shaffery said privacy rules prohibit her from
> commenting on Goodrum's case, unless he signed a waiver saying otherwise. He
> declined. Shaffery said a soldier who does not show up for duty is absent
> without leave.
>
> "If a soldier is not at his or her duty station and is not in an authorized
> leave or pass status, he is absent without leave," Shaffery said. "When a
> soldier is listed as AWOL, it stops all pay and benefits. When instructed to
> return and they do not comply, that is a violation."
>
> After appearing in the UPI article on Oct. 29, Goodrum asked for medical
> care on or about Nov. 7. He said he told Fort Knox officials that he was
> having a breakdown.
>
> "I said I was having problems. I told them I felt like I was having a
> breakdown right there," Goodrum said. Goodrum said Fort Knox told him to go
> away. A handwritten note in Goodrum's records from Nov. 7 says, "Colonel
> Stevens do (sic) not want this patient to be in medical hold."
>
> Goodrum said he then drove down an interstate highway at 5 miles an hour
> through rushing traffic. He said he was completely dysfunctional because of
> a combination of PTSD and what he says was retribution from his chain of
> command for speaking up about poor medical care at the base. He said he
> could have wound up dead.
>
> "A truck could have run right over me," Goodrum said about that day. "It was
> a complete nervous breakdown."
>
> Goodrum, a member of the Army Reserve, was named the 176th Maintenance
> Battalion's "Soldier of the Year" in 2001. He has received a host of awards,
> including the combat action ribbon, and positive reviews from superior
> officers.
>
> "Lt. Goodrum is a truly outstanding junior officer," reads one performance
> evaluation from 2002. "In addition to his technical competence, he
> demonstrates great leadership potential. ... Promote to captain and select
> for advance military schooling."
>
> Goodrum said his problems began in Iraq, working under combat conditions in
> a transportation company. There, he said, safety violations -- including the
> use of "deadlined" or broken vehicles -- resulted in the death of a 22-year
> old soldier. Goodrum appealed to the Army's Inspector General and Congress
> when he returned home.
>
> After Goodrum sought medical help at Fort Knox on Nov. 7 and was denied,
> Goodrum's civilian doctor hospitalized him for PTSD and alerted Fort Knox.
>
> Dr. Vijay Jethanandani wrote Fort Knox Nov. 15 that Goodrum needed medical
> leave until Dec. 7. The doctor kept officials there up to date on Goodrum's
> condition in a series of five letters.
>
> "Unfortunately, recent intimidation, threats of being arrested for staying
> on medical leave from his superiors has resulted in recurrent psychiatric
> symptoms," Jethanandani wrote Dec. 3. "Until 11/26/03, Mr. Jullian Goodrum
> was progressing fairly well."
>
> "It does not help that Mr. Goodrum was in combat with a unit in Iraq, where
> a superior officer ignored safety protocol jeopardizing the safety of
> soldiers and resulting in the death of one man," Jethanandani wrote.
> "Instead of following up on his complaints, it appears that some of his
> superiors on stateside may be penalizing him for reporting his superior
> officer in Iraq."
>
> In the wake of the Fort Stewart and Fort Knox stories, last fall
> Undersecretary of Defense David S.C. Chu ordered that if medical care is not
> available on base, "medical commanders shall promptly refer patients to
> other military, Veteran Affairs, or civilian sources of care."
>
> Goodrum said he showed Chu's memo to Fort Knox officials, but it did not
> help. "I told them they were ignoring an order from the undersecretary of
> Defense," Goodrum said.
>
> Goodrum's medical files shows that Walter Reed medical staff also have been
> unable to get Fort Knox medical officials to discuss his case. "Patient is
> currently assigned to the medical hold company in Fort Knox, Ky., and to a
> Capt. Savage. Capt. Savage has NOT returned any phone calls from this
> office," his record states.
>
> Soldiers at Fort Knox contacted UPI about another situation they consider a
> sign of poor care.
>
> On Feb. 11, a soldier on medical hold at Fort Knox who served in Iraq
> apparently attempted suicide in the barracks. He was attached to a Special
> Forces unit in Iraq.
>
> Soldiers there said he deeply slashed both of his wrists, spraying blood in
> the barracks hallway and around his room before being rushed to the
> hospital.
>
> "If it was not for about three guys, if they had not applied direct pressure
> and immediate pressure, he would have died," said a soldier at Fort Knox who
> knows him.
>
> Soldiers said they worry that Army officials did not act aggressively to
> address his problems, including heavy drinking, that appear to have surfaced
> since Iraq.
>
> Shaffery said she could not comment on that case, either. "We are sensitive
> to psychiatric or suicide issues with all of our population," she said.
>
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