From: Kalkor (kalkor@kalkor.com)
Date: Thu May 06 2004 - 10:18:36 MDT
[Jonathan Davis]
<snip>
I this forum, politically, we get a self-reinforcing cycle of anti-Bush and
anti-War opining that whilst emboldening rabid anti-Semites bigots like Jei
and spurring my esteemed fellows Jake and Kalkor to harsh claims, is mostly
unbalanced and based on bunk.
[Kalkor]
Don't drag me into your war/antiwar argument please. You'll note that my
post had nothing to do with this subject and everything to do with
valid/invalid argument practices. In case you forgot, lemme quote myself
again:
[Previous quote]
A personal attack on the author and subtle (haha) disdain for the poster.
Oh, and a sarcastic jab implying the source wasn't popular enough. Yet
nothing about the content? Hmmmmmm
Kalkor
[Which was in response to Joe Dees]
Oh, great! Diplomatic, military and foreign policy wisdom from the
touchy-feely Calafornia guru-ess - to - the - stars. And posted by Common
Dreams, yet! I wonder how Znet and the Yellow News got scooped.
[Kalkor]
So what about my claim is harsh, exactly?
You may also note that his next response, while he's off to a good start
with the claim of insubstantiality, seems to be spearheaded by yet another
attack on the author's style, person, and/or qualifications. In case you
missed THAT too, here it is:
[Joe Dees]
I pooh-pooh'ed Ms. Williamson's Kum-Bay-Yah'ish plea because she has no
qualifications beyond being an author of vaguely mystical self-affirmation
books, and presents nothing more substantial than an anecdote as evidence.
[Kalkor]
I maintain that these are all still unsupported and invalid agruments in the
context. Prove me wrong? Then you can use them in your arguments and be
taken seriously. Continue to personally attack an author rather than
rationally attack that which is written? In that case, we'll continue to
think you're a kook. Or a raving lunatic. Just like you think she's a
"touchy-feely Calafornia guru-ess - to - the - stars." and "Kum-Bay-Yah'ish"
"author of vaguely mystical self-affirmation books".
I haven't even bothered to read any of it, of course. I'm too busy being
touch-feely in my real life and new agey guru-ish myself. Which of course is
irrelevant to the argument I bring to this table, namely that it's ludicrous
for you to expect us to take "your word" that an author is unqualified
simply because you are able to call her names. (no one has provided
compelling reasons for me to read it anyhow ;-})
Kalkor
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