From: Steele, Kirk A (SteeleKA@nafm.misawa.af.mil)
Date: Mon Jan 07 2002 - 02:53:38 MST
On the surface that is the usual interpretation Kalkor. But to those who
have studied mathematical theory and cryptanalysis, the system proposed by
the venereal Bharati Krishna Tirtha Maharaja is obviously a steganographic
presentation.
There have been many attempts to imbue mystical utterances with the
appearence of scientific validity by claiming that there is a mathematical
coorelation to some subtended meta-teleological content.
Well.................horse shit. They never have worked when analyzed by
anyone with more than a newly found infatuation of such somatic silliness.
Anyone that has declared mathematics as a major or having been
professionally trained in cryptanalsys will scratch their head and declare
in an almost Dr Seuss like fashion "I do not like green eggs and SPAM!" SPAM
SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM !
then there is the completely erroneous manner in which this charlatan tries
to assert "BASE 50"
http://www.gosai.com/chaitanya/saranagati/html/vishnu_mjs/math/math_7.html
Granted I will gleefully acknowledge that there quite a few ladies on this
marble that are more facile than I with math, and to wit I would ask any one
of them to refrain from laughing out loud when looking at the above page.
This nut is a demonstrable boob, clearly determined to promulgate some
manner of self generated fluffy-bunniness.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kalkor [mailto:kalkor@kalkor.com]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:23 PM
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: RE: virus: Loser fraud...
After watching this thread for a while, I get the impression that Mermaid is
discussing the mnemonic values of the mathematical instruction contained in
the vedas... whereas Hermit and Kirk are debating the validity or even
existence (verifiable) of some sort of mystic pattern in the vedas? Is this
not a guava vs corn arguement?
I have yet to see any point-counterpoint embedded within the flameage ;-}
you're argueing separate issues, missing each others' points entirely, but
unable to step back and say "is that person disagreeing or digressing?"
Kalkor
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-virus@lucifer.com [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
Of Mermaid .
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:05 PM
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: virus: Loser fraud...
[Hermit] No lass, you are doing it all by yourself and if not trying to
"promote 'Vedic Mathematics' [ed. Rational translation = 'Horseshit']" you
are doing a very bad job of not attempting to do so.
[Mermaid]Its your word against mine about my intentions. *I* havent come to
any conclusions without studying the subject.
[Hermit] Because the works give PI as "For example in the Baudhayana
Sulbasutra, as well as the value of 676/225, there appears 900/289 and
1156/361. In different Sulbasutras the values 2.99, 3.00, 3.004, 3.029,
3.047, 3.088, 3.1141, 3.16049 and 3.2022 can all be found; see [6]. In [3]
the value = 25/8 = 3.125 is found in the Manava Sulbasutras."
[Mermaid]Where are you quoting this from....
[Mermaid]Sulbasutras were written by different people at different periods
of time. Sulbasutras is not an Indian creation or 'invention'. They were
different versions written by different scribes from the material that has
been passed down from one generation to the next. They give rules for the
construction of the sacrificial altars. They do NOT contain mathematical
proofs for the rules re constructing the altars.
[Mermaid]There has been no claim that the Sulbasutras were accurate
mathematical treatises. These seem to be distinctly different from the 16
Ganita Sutras which have to memorised so that any kind of mathematical
calculation can be made with any number of digits.
[Mermaid]Nevertheless, the 16 rules of Thirthaji has not been proved wrong.
It is not a 'code' as you claim. Not that you have any qualification to do
that, considering you neither know Sanskrit nor have you read the work nor
have you conducted a scientific study to prove that the rules do not work.
Most importantly, you have been attempting to include the 'religious' and
'faith' and 'belief' angles...key words that would repel the audience here
so that they would take a position against anything that is associated with
the word, 'vedic'..like Kirk did...let us not forget that you are yet to
prove to anyone that this has anything..whatsoever... to do with religion
or belief or prophecies of any kind...
[Hermit] So they didn't fucking understand the nature of PI - never mind its
value to a number of places that it took another 4000 years to determine. So
they couldn't make up mnemonics to remember it. That's why.
[Mermaid]Ganita Sutras doesnt seem to be a study of Pi. But why do you keep
brining up Sulbasutras??? The sloka that Yash references was to remember
whatever the value of Pi <or whatever Pi represented> was upto 32 places..it
was not a formula for the determination of Pi. It IS an Mneumonic aid...
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