Re: virus: Scientology: What is it? What are your opinions?

From: Keith Henson (hkhenson@rogers.com)
Date: Tue Aug 12 2003 - 04:40:45 MDT

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    At 08:42 PM 11/08/03 -0700, you wrote:
    >A successful meme in a pool for the wealthy.
    >
    >Bill Roh
    >
    >metahuman wrote:
    >
    >>Topic.

    They certainly take money away from their richer members in gobs. The FBI
    has classed them both as a paramilitary group and as organized
    crime. According to Bureau of Prisons and surveys of how many there are,
    almost one in 250 of them are locked up, mostly for fraud.

    I know way more about them than is reasonable. Much of what I know can be
    found if you put "sex drugs cults" (without quotes) in Google and take the
    first link.

    Few snips from that article:

    A number of people including Paulette Cooper (author of one of the first
    books about Scientology, and a victim of the cult's attacks for 30 years)
    have said that as a group former Scientologists (and I presume this would
    hold for other cults) were not distinguishable except for being more easily
    deceived or duped than average people. Scientology members have been
    subjected to an unusual number of scams, including a $500 million Ponzi
    scheme that you can read about in a number of magazine articles and at
    http://www.slatkinfraud.com/. A long term Toronto Scientologist in a
    thoughtful moment commented to me that the local Scientologists he knew had
    been defrauded dozens of times, much more often than any other group he
    could think of. As the NYT article mentioned above put it "Some people seem
    to be born with vulnerable dopamine systems that get hijacked by social
    rewards." Scientologists seem to be selected out of the population to be
    particularly vulnerable to attention rewards.

    ************

    Nazism/communism caused more deaths this century than the plague did in the
    14th century. We understand what caused plague, even our leaders
    understand. But the world's leadership has no clue as to what are the root
    causes of Aum Shinrikyo or Bin Laden's cult. Mind control is a label to
    hang on it, but without understanding why "mind control" works it may be
    like trying to advocate hand washing before Koch and Pasteur explained
    microbes as the reason behind why hand washing reduced death rates.

    The upcoming trial of John Walker Lindh could be used to educate people on
    the subjects of memes and the evolutionary psychology bases reasons we are
    vulnerable to them. But more likely it will be an example of primates
    continuing to play social games without the least insight into what is
    killing them.

    Models, we need models! Predictive models, evolutionary psychology based
    social dynamics models. And we need to do experiments on those models
    before we take steps that seem right but only cause more problems later.

    The Scientology connection--applied memetics--how it happened

    Scientology has a deep connection to this article. Back in the 1950s, pulp
    writer L. Ron Hubbard published the first article in Astounding Science
    Fiction on Dianetics, an amateur psychological practice that eventually
    became incorporated into the Scientology cult. Scientology is, of course, a
    meme of the cult class. It is distinguished by such sub-memes as "fair
    game," the practice of suing and otherwise abusing those to speak out
    against its excesses. (See http://www.lermanet.com/) Scientology allegedly
    spends between $20 and $30 million a year pursuing its critics through the
    courts. (They admitted in Federal court to spending at least $2 million
    suing me for exposing one of their allegedly illegal medical practices and
    it may be as high as $5 million if funds for all the private investigators
    they have used on my friends, my relatives and me are included.)

    I had mentioned Scientology a time or two in my memetics articles, but had
    taken no serious interest in it before January 1995. At that time a lawyer
    for Scientology issued a command (rmgroup) to remove the Usenet news group
    alt.religion.scientology from the Internet, apparently thinking that this
    "denial of service" attack on the Internet would end critical discussion
    about Scientology.

    This attack on free speech backfired, having somewhat the effect of a gang
    of thugs riding into town and burning down the newspaper. This attempted
    censorship drew in dozens of Internet free speech advocates, me among them.
    "A.r.s.," as it is known, became one of the most popular groups on the net,
    with a readership estimated as high as 100,000. Surveys place it in the top
    ten and sometimes in the top 5 news groups.

    This news group is a real-life soap opera, with dramatic subplots on a
    regular basis. Popular topics include accounts of people exiting
    Scientology, and a stream of reports on the cult's abuses (up to and
    including the "treatment" of a woman who died of dehydration--see
    http://www.lisamcpherson.org/). See http://www.lisatrust.net/ media section
    for claims of how the government and police of Clearwater, Florida have
    allegedly been corrupted, or put "Scientology booger" into Google.

    The a.r.s. newsgroup has survived everything done to get rid of it. After
    the rmgroup, it was attacked by cancelling articles. Then it was hit with a
    denial of service storm of over four million forged nonsense postings in
    1998 and 1999. The forged postings were eventually said to have been traced
    to group of cult operatives led by Italian Scientologist Gavino Idda, as
    publicly reported by former Scientologist Tory Christman.
    http://www.lermanet.com/cos/toryonosa.htm - Part5 (Tory's story of leaving
    Scientology and being attacked is a saga in itself.) In between Scientology
    has had a rotating group of agents posting anti-psychiatry articles and
    attacking people on the group. (Identifying some of these people is a major
    topic. Are they really agents of Scientology? Or are they critics trying to
    make Scientology look bad?)

    The long running battle on the net has the horrid attraction of a train
    wreck in slow motion. Several hundred of the spectators have stepped out of
    the audience and taken a place on the stage creating Web sites
    (http://www.xenu.net/ is a prominent site), picketing Scientology
    locations, and being involved in many other activities open and covert. My
    personal involvement reached the state where I became a political refugee
    in Canada. (See http://www.operatingthetan.com/ for the latest update.)

    The discovery of the deep connection between drugs and cults, like many
    discoveries, started as a set of chance observations . . . .

    ********

    (I was convicted for picketing scientology's desert paramilitary compound
    over the two women they killed there in the spring of 2000. I took
    warnings by local officials that my conviction was political and public
    threats by scientologists on the net that I would be killed in jail
    seriously enough to become a refugee.)

    Keith Henson

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