From: rhinoceros (rhinoceros@freemail.gr)
Date: Fri Oct 17 2003 - 15:43:17 MDT
[kirksteele]
Can anyone explain why the op list was trucated en extrimis and done so in an arbitrary manner and done so without public dislosure?
David "Lucifer" McFadzean, what do you know of this?
Have any other actions been taken without public disclosure?
Why is not this and other processes in a supposedly self governing body not been disclosed?
[rhinoceros]
I don't think I know why or whether the IRC operator list was trucatedit. But I couldn't explain it either when I, for example, was first made an operator in IRC. I just thought it was either a courtesy or I was expected to help things run smothly by wearing that badge while I was there.
There were no procedures at all at that time. Just the fact that everything resides in a PC on Lucifer's desktop, plus the assumption that the only concern we all have is to make this place run and evolve. In Lucifer's case, this assumption was also supported by the fact that he pays the bills.
[kirksteele]
Is CoV or is CoV not to be a self governing body where people CANNOT run around in the back ground sniping and deleting "uncomfortable" bits for no one to see.
[rhinoceros]
Heh... this sounds serious. "People running around in the back ground sniping and deleting 'uncomfortable' bits for no one to see?"
Doh... My mistake. You only said "to be a ... where people CANNOT" do all these things. You didn't say that they have been doing these things, isn't it? You only said that they *might* have been doing them.
So yes, I think CoV is to be such a body. I can see a lot of work towards that direction recently, involving rule making, the Meridion, getting people to make decisions, laying out goals and projects, etc. I assume there has always been some decision making, although it was done by arbitrary assignment until now.
[kirksteele]
Or is there a paradigm shift afoot? "If we ignore it maybe the problem will go away." "If we AVOID the problem, there is no problem."
Hardly a Virian virtue. Sounds remarkably close to a Virian Sin.
"any thoughts ?"
[rhinoceros]
From what I said, yes, there seems to be a paradigm shift, a rather positive one. The Meridion, for example, already managed to solve a problem which had been with us for years, just by showing clearly to the offender that what he had been doing was seen as disreputable here.
But you obviously didn't mean that. Can you be more specific? How does this new paradigm make us more susceptible to ignoring problems? You must have something in mind which was not dealt with as it would have before the "paradigm shift."
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