From: Dr Sebby (drsebby@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Jan 11 2004 - 16:30:03 MST
...hiya walt old boy :) say, has anyone noticed that any time footage is
shown of young muslims studying the koran, they always seem to be bobbing
their heads violently back and forth whilst reciting or reading from it?
does this sort of early childhood brain bruising help the indoctrination
process? or is it just the media slanting things by showing only the "head
bobbing" study method so as to suggest an underlying core of nuttiness?
DrSebby.
"Courage...and shuffle the cards".
----Original Message Follows----
From: Walter Watts <wlwatts@cox.net>
Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
To: virus@lucifer.com
Subject: Re: virus: terraforming mars
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 17:11:06 -0600
We can't afford to terraform Mars.
We've spent all our money terraforming Iraq.
Yaba daba do.
Remember, like the fellow said of the universe:
Muslims are not weirder than we imagine. They're weirder than we CAN
imagine.
Walter
<cowering from the thought of tampon burka bombs>
Dr Sebby wrote:
> ...oh i agree with you Mermaid; his reasons are never for anyones benefit
> but his own, but in this time of turmoil any way we can funnel money to
NASA
> is that much less spent on big things that go "boom".
>
> ...by the way, why isnt anyone tinkering with a lander that could visit
> Europa and get underneath that ice. it seems a dead certainty that there
> would be abundant and i'm guessing rather progressive life forms down
there.
> is it too far away for us to remotely control it or something? what
are
> the difficulties in such a venture?
>
> DrSebby.
> "Courage...and shuffle the cards".
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Mermaid" <hidden@lucifer.com>
> Reply-To: virus@lucifer.com
> To: virus@lucifer.com
> Subject: Re: virus: terraforming mars
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 03:39:09 -0700
>
> [quote from: DrSebby on 2004-01-10 at 01:11:22]
> ...if bush could somehow push some financing towards such a moon venture,
i
> would see it as a much deserved albeit out of place gesture of humanity
> before he is banished from office.
>
> [Mermaid]you think? here ya go....bush *does* seems to have the idea to
> colonise the moon...
>
> imo, it seems like yet another election promise..like the one about
> legalising all hispanic illegal immigrants. but then again, bush might
have
> genuine interest in claiming the moon and the red planet for J.C.
>
> Bush Plans Missions to the Moon, Mars
>
> By MARCIA DUNN, AP Aerospace Writer
>
> CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - President Bush (news - web sites) is planning a
> permanent science base for astronauts on the moon that could serve as a
> steppingstone for sending humans ultimately on to Mars, according to
senior
> administration officials.
>
> The president wants to aggressively reinvigorate the space program, still
> reeling from the Columbia tragedy nearly one year ago, said the
officials,
> speaking on condition of anonymity.
>
> White House press secretary Scott McClellan confirmed that Bush would
> deliver a speech Wednesday describing his vision of the long-term
direction
> of the space program, but he did not reveal what Bush would say.
>
> "The president is strongly committed to the exploration of space,"
McClellan
> said Friday.
>
> A major question is how to pay for an expensive space initiative while
the
> nation is struggling with record budget deficits and the high costs of
the
> war against terrorism.
>
> McClellan said that the White House budget office was involved in the
> administration's space review, and that Bush will "put forth a
responsible
> budget that meets our highest priorities while working to hold the line
of
> spending elsewhere in the budget."
>
> A Nobel-winning physicist who investigated the shuttle accident is among
> those who would rather see more affordable robots rather than
astronauts
> exploring the lunar and Martian surfaces. He points to NASA (news - web
> sites)'s Spirit rover newly arrived at Mars.
>
> "The cost of a manned enclave on the moon, I think, is going to make the
> space station look cheap. That's the only good thing about it," said
> Stanford University's Douglas Osheroff.
>
> In any event, "I think we're still 30 years from going to Mars and if
> there's any reason to do that, I don't know," Osheroff said.
>
> NASA officials did not return phone calls.
>
> Bush does not intend to propose sending Americans to Mars anytime soon,
but
> instead envisions preparing for a Mars expedition more than a decade from
> now, one administration official said.
>
> The White House has been looking for a new revitalizing role for NASA for
> months, with Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) leading the
> interagency task force since summer. The speculation over a major space
> initiative began heating up in early December.
>
> Rep. Ralph Hall, R-Texas, a member of the House Science Committee,
welcomed
> the news that Bush would be making an announcement about space.
>
> Hall said he has long been trying to get the president more interested in
> space exploration. The president never went to Johnson Space Center in
> Houston while serving as Texas governor; in fact, last February's
memorial
> service for the seven Columbia astronauts was his first visit.
>
> Bush's fresh interest in space happens to coincide with an election year.
A
> new bold space initiative, it is thought, could excite Americans.
>
> "I had the feeling the last 2 1/2 years people would rather make a trip
to
> the grocery store than a trip to the moon because of the economy," Hall
> said. "As things are turning around, we need to stay in touch with space"
> and the science spinoffs it provides.
>
> It was the Columbia accident that helped force a discussion of where NASA
> should venture beyond the three remaining space shuttles and the
> international space station. The panel that investigated the disaster
called
> for a clearly defined long-term mission a national vision for space
that
> has been missing for three decades.
>
> Astronauts last walked on the moon in 1972; in all, 12 men tread the
lunar
> surface over a 3 1/2-year period. This time, the president favors a
> permanent station, administration officials said.
>
> Bush's father, on the 20th anniversary of the first manned moon landing,
> made a similar call for lunar colonies and a Mars expedition. But the
plan
> was prohibitively expensive an estimated $400 billion to $500 billion
> and went nowhere.
>
> No one knows what the new venture might cost or how NASA would pay for
it.
>
> House Science Committee spokeswoman Heidi Tringe said lawmakers on the
panel
> had yet to be briefed on the specifics.
>
> Earlier this week, Bush put in a congratulatory call to officials in
charge
> of NASA's latest Mars rover. He called the Spirit rover's successful
landing
> a "reconfirmation of the American spirit of exploration." Another rover
is
> due to arrive at the red planet in two weeks.
>
> Many space buffs see the moon as a necessary place to test the equipment
and
> techniques that would be needed by astronauts on Mars. It's closer, just
> three days away versus six months away for the red planet.
>
> Visionaries say observatories could be built on the moon and mining camps
> could gather helium-3 for conversion into fuel for use back on Earth.
>
> Others, however, contend that astronauts should make a beeline to Mars.
>
> Still others, including John Glenn, the first American to orbit the
Earth,
> believes the nation should complete and fully maximize the international
> space station before dashing anywhere else.
>
> ___
>
> Associated Press writer Scott Lindlaw contributed to this story from
> Washington.
>
> link:
>
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040109/ap_on_go_pr_wh/back_to_the_moon_4κΏ
>
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