From: Mermaid (hidden@lucifer.com)
Date: Sat May 22 2004 - 13:53:37 MDT
[JD 2] Yes. You can lose the protections of the conventions if you breach
them.
[Mermaid]Does the geneva convention say anything about misusing or using white flags?? misuse a white flag...get your balls sizzled?
[Limbic]I do not think anyone was getting their balls shocked by US troops. It appears they were getting threatened with torture & roughed up, not directly
tortured.
[Mermaid]HUH? where have you been? and where are you getting this information from?
[JD]This cannot be said of the US breaches which have been exposed,
denounced and the miscreants are in the process of being punished.
[Mermaid]Punished by those who exposed the 'breaches'? Or punished by the miscreant themself? e.g. jerry sivets get one year in prison for taking the
pictures of the most famous prisoner abuse case(many have gone unreported in popular media) and for repeating under orders that the abuse was not conducted with full military permission, if not instructions.
[JD 2] Wrongdoing punished with the intention of preventing it happening
again.
[Mermaid]With one year in prison? all that pictures = one year in prison...plus..we have to take the word of this pig that it wasnt done under orders from above...how are we believe it? how are you fashioning this story?
[JD]Can anyone show me where the current Insurgents have signed up? Can anyone show me where they have ever respected these conventions?
[Mermaid]Imagine a burglar breaks into your house, steals all your stuff,
tries to kill you, rape your wife and daughters, passes electricity through
your penis and screams bloody murder when you hit him with a stick. His
accomplice mumbles that you are not acting acc to the law.
[JD 2] And the awards for purple prose and false analogy go
to....MERMAID!!!!! Given what I wrote in the "Rumsfeld Wiggle" thread, is
this not plagiarism?
"Seems to me a bit like saying to a guy obeying Queensbury rules in a boxing match "Uh oh, one of your punches landed low, your opponents gloves are coming off!" whilst his opponent has been wearing knuckdusters and kicking for the groin all along."
[Mermaid]How is it 'plagiarism'? boxing match! as if i'd get THAT! i really dont see how anyone can justify the actions of the us army by declaring that an unorganised group of people didnt stick to the 'geneva convention'..esp since they didnt start the war or invade any country...the more this exchange goes on, it seems to indicate that you are calling the us army a bunch of terrorists...do you see the gaps in your argument? ...anyways...you will have to tell me the progression of your thoughts from evidence/facts to conclusion...i am sure it will be terribly interesting...i, for one, cannot see the logic or rationality of your thought process..it seems to me that you already have decided upon the conclusion and you are working your way backwards to the facts...it seems a little shoddy and messy...can i be right?
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