From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Tue Sep 24 2002 - 02:06:42 MDT
On 24 Sep 2002 at 0:43, Zloduska wrote:
>
> [Casey] I don't recall describing you as one of his minions. If I
> have please point it out and I will apologize to you formally.
>
> [Joe] Ditto. I do believe that I mentioned that you were one of the
> FH's.
>
>
> Er, you both certainly implied it. The word "minion" has been thrown
> around here more often than free condoms at a Gay Pride Parade. I
> don't have the time to dredge it up, but you have basically painted
> anyone who is a sympathizer or supporter of Hermit on any issue to be
> a "minion" of his. I don't want apologies, I'm just pointing out that
> there is a clear difference between that term and a "friend".
>
I was basically applying the term to the relative newbies who were
sucking at his coattails as if they were teats. My apologies for not being
clearer.
>
> And I also spoke up because Joe claimed something about me which is
> simply untrue. In this very thread he wrote:
>
> -----
> [quoting Calvin]Where have Zloduska, Walter, Casey, Bill and others
> gone?
>
> [Joe] Calvin asked a question, and I answered it; they formed their
> own list (to which I was invited and have joined) to get away from
> Hermit. In their opinion, Hermit was practically ALL of the
> situation, since it was because of him that they did so. Just fact;
> ask 'em yourself.
>
Hokay; you were not part of that list; it was a slip and I freely
acknowledge and apologize for it - something of which Hermie Boy is
constitutionally incapable - and I see no rational reason why other
people should make collective allowances for his personal deficiencies.
>
> Not only is it irksome that you have slapped a label on me that does
> not belong, when I have avidly tried to avoid the whole fiasco, but I
> am also _not_ impressed by your own abusive language toward David.
> You should know that David has always tried to remain neutral and do
> right by us, and he is the least deserving of your animosity and
> misdirected hostility. I'm pissed that he was bothered enough by the
> immature quarrels that he left.
>
He was the persistent enabler of Hermit's behavior. I would have
preferred that he stayed and jettisoned the Hemorrhoidally Bloviating
One, but he made his own choice, and I respect it.
>
> You know why it may seem like I am a die-hard Hermit supporter?
> Simply, I fight my battles outside of the public eye and don't sully
> the list with so much personal bickering. Sure, I have indulged in
> many casual flame-wars, but any time I had a major problem and/or
> disagreement with a list regular, such as Hermit, I settle it via
> email, IRC, or the phone-- OFF THE LIST. \>
>
That is not where he engaged me.
>
> Many times I don't agree
> with Hermit at all, and I tell him so-- privately. In fact, there was
> a period that I was so upset over an incident (re: the Mermaid
> fiasco/banning) that I did not speak with him for months and avoided
> the #virus channel altogether. But I can forgive and forget, even if
> someone insults my mother.
Ypour mother, I'll bet, is most likely not in the same circum,stancxes as
mine - and if she by chance is, Hermit did not use freely given
knowledge of those circumstances to prove himself to be an
unredemable anus with you, as he did with me.
>
> I agree that Hermit was out of line and his remarks about your mother
> were uncalled for. Well, so fucking what, Hermit is not going to
> change at all.
>
That is the most damning staement concernig Hermit that could
possibly be made. Such a being would perpetually fail the Turing test.
>
> Yes, you are suffering, as is your mother, but your
> hopeless quest for "justice" just isn't going to happen. As many have
> said a trillion times, get over it, man, and move on. You are only
> exacerbating the entire situation instead of ignoring his
> inappropriate comments. After all, are you able to cast the first
> stone? You've insulted him up and down more than anyone else here.
> Your ad-hom's are no different from his; just a matter of degree. Now
> get over it.
>
> And furthermore, I really can't leave the Church of Virus-- how the
> fuck am I going to explain this ideohazard tattoo on my back without
> it?
>
> Damn, I am exhausted. Comatose, here I come. Goodnight.
>
Why should I break, when that insulting slandersucker is unwilling to
bend? Fuck him and the megalomanic self-delusion he rides
everywhere on!
>
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> This message was posted by Zloduska to the Virus 2002 board on Church
> of Virus BBS.
> <http://virus.lucifer.com/bbs/index.php?board=51;action=display;thread
> id=26707>
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