Re: virus: Re:Notice and Proposal of Importance to all Virians

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Mon Aug 04 2003 - 16:55:47 MDT

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    From: Calvin O Ashmore <coa@andrew.cmu.edu>
    To: virus@lucifer.com
    Subject: Re: virus: Re:Notice and Proposal of Importance
    to all Virians
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    The reason that I and several others are pissed off at Hermit is because
    he has repeatedly attempted to piss on us (and anyone else who should
    dare to disagree with them), and is presently endeavoring to do the
    same to the purpose for which this list was originally created.

    No whine, just fact.

    But you do bring up an interesting point. Let me indulge in an example
    to illustrate it.

    The anti-Israel people accuse the pro-Israel people of failing to
    distinguish between Arabs, Muslims (most Muslims are not Arab) and
    militant Wahhabist jihadists, or of covertly attacking all Arabs or all
    Muslims when they take issue with the rhetoric or actions of militant
    Wahhabist jihadists. The pro-Israel people accuse the anti-Israel
    people of failing to distinguish between Jews, Semites (the Palestinians
    are Semites, too, and both groups share the genetically based malady
    of Tay-Sach's Disease), Israelis (there are many Palestinian Israelies),
    and Zionists, and of covertly attacking all Jews when they criticize
    Zionism or the state of Israel. Each side accuses the other of pointing
    out nonexistent motes of sawdust in the others' eyes whilst missing the
    ship's masts on their own. Each accuses the other of racism rather
    than opposition to what they perceive as a malignant ideology. There is
    plenty of evidence that both sides are both right and wrong to some
    degree, but neither side will admit to any error except those they claim
    are made by the other side, and members of each side believes, or
    claims to believe, that those on the other side are either clueless dupes
    or malevolent manipulators. What is the cause of such a radical
    disconnect, and more to the point, what can be done about it, so that
    the complete truth of the matter can arise from this conflicy of dissonant
    perspectives? Or, when faced with extremist 'true believers' of any ilk,
    who excuse, ignore or even applaud the mistakes and malevolencies of
    their own group while decrying those of the other whether they do in
    fact exist or not, is any such decanting possible?

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