From: metahuman (v1@metavirus.net)
Date: Wed Dec 03 2003 - 15:03:40 MST
This would be an interesting discussion.
From the definitions provided by Wordsmyth.net for "order", I say that any positive claim of the existence of order relies on subjectivity or rather the emotional and irrational faith in human perception as is the case with faith in gods. Order inherently implies command. If chaos--synonymous with nature--received order in the way that people generally say "bring order to chaos" then there must be some force more powerful than chaos to command it. However, this is assuming that nature uses a priority system.
It's only skin-deep to say that humans are the order (commander) over chaos (nature) as we can shape the world as we see fit, but our perception of things is also abstractly "skin-deep."
Now my knowledge of all the chaos theories, etc. is very limited. I don't know anything about Arrow's theorem, but I do think it is possible that "order over chaos" is not possible. I could probably provide a pretty good case that would stand up to a few verbal SCUD attacks if I had taken the time to do proper research on chaos theory and "natural order" so take this irrational discourse with a grain of salt.
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